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Posted on 1/16/15 at 10:16 am to TigerinATL
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Maybe if Doc had taken the time to fix his son's shot he wouldn't be in this mess
Yeah, it's kind of inexcusable on both of their parts that his form is that bad. He'll never be a consistent shooter with that form.
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Steph Curry is what Rivers should be with the resources he had access to.
Did Doc really not really make himself available to Austin or did Austin ignore his father? I could see it going either way.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 10:17 am to Swank
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But in a year-and-a-half Rivers has now given up Bledsoe, Butler, Dudley, Farmar, Bullock, Douglas-Roberts, a first round pick, and a second round pick, and all he has to show for it is J.J. Redick and now Austin Rivers.
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Not to mention with all these poor moves he also gave Spencer Hawes the MLE and he has been a bad fit
He and Chris Paul deserve each other.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 10:24 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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Did Doc really not really make himself available to Austin or did Austin ignore his father? I could see it going either way.
I have no clue. To be fair to Doc his job involves lots of travel and is time consuming, and he lived in Boston while Austin was growing up in Orlando.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 10:28 am to TigerinATL
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Steph Curry is what Rivers should be with the resources he had access to.
That's a little unfair. Rivers wasn't even that good at Duke. He was always more name than player and was a controversial pick. Everything we saw was a guy who busted his arse, but just didn't have the ability to be a rotation player.
Curry has been a legit top 10 player in the league for a couple years and is an MVP frontrunner this season. Arguably the best pg and the most destructive offensive weapon in the entire league.
That didn't happen because Dell paid more attention to him or something. Rivers could have had John Wooden as his personal coach and he isn't reaching Curry levels.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 10:39 am to corndeaux
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That's a little unfair.
More hyperbolic than unfair. He's got an elite ability/natural talent to get into the lane and no learned skills to complement that natural ability.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 12:01 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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But in a year-and-a-half Rivers has now given up Bledsoe, Butler, Dudley, Farmar, Bullock, Douglas-Roberts, a first round pick, and a second round pick, and all he has to show for it is J.J. Redick and now Austin Rivers
Redick is averaging 15 ppg as a starter and is top 10 in the league in 3 point %. Hes WAY better than all of those guys save Bledsoe. Article was clearly written with some anti-Duke slant.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 12:04 pm to corndeaux
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Steph Curry is what Rivers should be with the resources he had access to.
That's a little unfair. Rivers wasn't even that good at Duke. He was always more name than player and was a controversial pick. Everything we saw was a guy who busted his arse, but just didn't have the ability to be a rotation player.
Part of Rivers problem (actually most of it) is that he got by for so long against high school/AAU competition on his quick first step and the fact that he was faster and more athletic than most of his competition. He obviously didn't work on a more well rounded game because he didn't need to in order to succeed on that level. In college, he still had the ability to score, but the limitations of his game were more visible against better competition. Now, he's in the pros where virtualyl everyone is quick/fast/athletic (typically moreso than him), and the complete lack of diversity in his offensive game is glaringly obvious. It's a little late in his basketball lifespan to suddenly learn how to shoot like a true 2 guard.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 12:07 pm to REG861
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Redick is averaging 15 ppg as a starter and is top 10 in the league in 3 point %. Hes WAY better than all of those guys save Bledsoe. Article was clearly written with some anti-Duke slant.
He's still one-dimensional and quite limited defensively. He also may be better than those individually, but as a value play, their sum is worth more.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 12:11 pm to THRILLHO
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Bill Simmons ?@BillSimmons 25s25 seconds ago
Sources: Clippers sign Austin Rivers to a 5-year, $120 million extension.
smart move...
lock him up before he hits FA
plus if AR doesnt work out and Doc get fired, he and austin can split the pot
win/win
Posted on 1/16/15 at 12:16 pm to cgrand
How long until Chris Paul smacks AR for being terrible lol
Posted on 1/16/15 at 12:23 pm to Smedium27
Chris Paul has got to feel the window closing on him again. He's had some bad luck - back in 2008 he found himself on a legit WC contending team but Chandler's injury and poor owner kiboshed that run before it really even started.
Now his LAC window is being slammed prematurely shut due to a stacked WC and just poor chemistry/personnel decisions by the Clips.
Now his LAC window is being slammed prematurely shut due to a stacked WC and just poor chemistry/personnel decisions by the Clips.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 12:27 pm to SirWinston
I think Chris Paul is going to maybe win one really late in his career when he's playing with a contender on a very small salary as an aging vet backup.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 12:30 pm to SirWinston
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Chris Paul has got to feel the window closing on him again. He's had some bad luck - back in 2008 he found himself on a legit WC contending team but Chandler's injury and poor owner kiboshed that run before it really even started.
Now his LAC window is being slammed prematurely shut due to a stacked WC and just poor chemistry/personnel decisions by the Clips.
no sympathy for him, at all
you make your bed, you sleep in it
had he stayed obviously we'd not have AD, but that dosnt mean we'd not be contenders
frick him
Posted on 1/16/15 at 12:32 pm to cgrand
well he probably doesn't get his State Farm ad campaign if he stays here and that thing is a career definer IMO.
I'm not being facetious either, that's right up there with the "Be like Mike" ad campaign IMO.
I'm not being facetious either, that's right up there with the "Be like Mike" ad campaign IMO.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 12:39 pm to SirWinston
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well he probably doesn't get his State Farm ad campaign if he stays here and that thing is a career definer IMO.
I'm not being facetious either, that's right up there with the "Be like Mike" ad campaign IMO.
and...?
Posted on 1/16/15 at 12:41 pm to cgrand
that alone (plus living in hollywood hills) makes his decision to force a trade from a 2nd round at best NOLA team to a 2nd round at best LAC team the right move.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 12:48 pm to SirWinston
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I'm not being facetious either, that's right up there with the "Be like Mike" ad campaign IMO.
You don't have to be facetious when you're prone to hyperbolic exaggeration. I can't even tell you what the catch phrase in the State Farm ads is other than CP3 in disguise. You say Like Mike to anyone over 25-30 and the song immediately starts playing in their head. The vatos at the safari park are in a more memorable State Farm campaign than CP3.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 12:53 pm to cgrand
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cgrand
Oh we will see where you stand when he comes "home" to win a title with the best player in the NBA in 2-3 years.
Regardless of where people stand with him: no Paul = Davis. And I'll take the guy we got right now over CP3 all day. Did we get lucky? Yes. But CP3 was the first flap of the butterfly's wing.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 5:25 pm to SirWinston
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Now his LAC window is being slammed prematurely shut due to a stacked WC and just poor chemistry/personnel decisions by the Clips.
That's what happens when players undermine the GM/coach and start dictating moves.
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