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In all seriousness, has Drew's time come and gone?
Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:12 pm
I'm just observing all of these up and coming QB's around the league(Wilson, Stafford, etc.) going into postseason play and I can't help but think yes.
Even when Drew did have some pass protection this year, he just didn't seem to have that same zip on the ball or shuffling in the pocket as in years past.
Even when Drew did have some pass protection this year, he just didn't seem to have that same zip on the ball or shuffling in the pocket as in years past.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:13 pm to JS87
Let's see him with better o line play.
ETA: I didn't even read your whole post. Good lord you're dumb.
ETA: I didn't even read your whole post. Good lord you're dumb.
This post was edited on 12/28/14 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:14 pm to JS87
The league has a shortage of great QB's. We should continue to remain damn happy with Drew for now.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:14 pm to JS87
Det isn't going to the postseason because of Stafford. He regressed a ton this year.
This post was edited on 12/28/14 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:14 pm to JS87
Nah, he's still better than 85% of the QBs in the league.
This post was edited on 12/28/14 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:16 pm to JS87
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Even when Drew did have some pass protection this year, he just didn't seem to have that same zip on the ball or shuffling in the pocket as in years past.
Awesome to have such dumbass fans with absolutely no understanding of the game of football.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:17 pm to JS87
LOL, He's 1st in passing yards and 5th in touchdowns ! He sucks !
Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:20 pm to JS87
No. Although it seemed he didn't go through progressions this year like in years past. Left a lot of guys open. Seemed like he had time too just locked on way too much this year. Maybe the line had him scared.
This post was edited on 12/28/14 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:22 pm to JS87
This team is no better with Wilson or Stafford on the team
Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:37 pm to JS87
quote:
Even when Drew did have some pass protection this year, he just didn't seem to have that same zip on the ball or shuffling in the pocket as in years past.
What? Look at the Pitt game and the difference after their NT went down
He was one of the most pressured qbs but had an incredibly low sack % BC he avoided pressure so well
Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:38 pm to JS87
The ESPN Total QB Rating for this season has it about right. At worst, you could argue that he is 12th and at best, 5th.
Still top 5 to 12 QB out of 32. Not what he once was but still among the best.
RK PLAYER PASS EPA RUN EPA SACK EPA PEN EPA TOTAL EPA ACT PLAYS QB PAR QB PAA TOTAL QBR
1 Tony Romo, DAL 81.3 3.3 -18.8 4.3 70.1 497 95.0 55.4 82.3
2 Aaron Rodgers, GB 86.7 10.2 -17.0 5.5 85.4 618 114.8 65.6 81.2
3 Peyton Manning, DEN 86.3 -1.7 -10.4 4.5 78.7 662 112.0 59.2 77.4
4 Tom Brady, NE 80.1 3.6 -11.7 6.5 78.5 678 109.3 55.2 75.4
5 Ben Roethlisberger, PIT 87.4 -1.1 -19.2 5.2 72.3 668 102.8 49.6 73.5
6 Eli Manning, NYG 80.1 1.8 -16.4 5.1 70.6 645 97.2 45.8 72.7
7 Drew Brees, NO 85.9 2.4 -16.7 7.7 79.3 723 107.8 50.2 72.2
8 Matt Ryan, ATL 81.0 2.9 -16.4 1.5 69.1 682 96.3 42.0 70.0
9 Philip Rivers, SD 77.2 0.0 -16.0 7.7 68.9 659 91.6 39.0 69.3
10 Joe Flacco, BAL 58.5 1.2 -12.5 12.1 59.3 616 82.4 33.3 67.8
11 Russell Wilson, SEA 44.5 32.4 -20.1 0.5 57.3 631 77.4 27.1 64.4
12 Andrew Luck, IND 61.4 8.4 -15.7 5.6 59.7 748 91.5 31.9 64.3
Still top 5 to 12 QB out of 32. Not what he once was but still among the best.
RK PLAYER PASS EPA RUN EPA SACK EPA PEN EPA TOTAL EPA ACT PLAYS QB PAR QB PAA TOTAL QBR
1 Tony Romo, DAL 81.3 3.3 -18.8 4.3 70.1 497 95.0 55.4 82.3
2 Aaron Rodgers, GB 86.7 10.2 -17.0 5.5 85.4 618 114.8 65.6 81.2
3 Peyton Manning, DEN 86.3 -1.7 -10.4 4.5 78.7 662 112.0 59.2 77.4
4 Tom Brady, NE 80.1 3.6 -11.7 6.5 78.5 678 109.3 55.2 75.4
5 Ben Roethlisberger, PIT 87.4 -1.1 -19.2 5.2 72.3 668 102.8 49.6 73.5
6 Eli Manning, NYG 80.1 1.8 -16.4 5.1 70.6 645 97.2 45.8 72.7
7 Drew Brees, NO 85.9 2.4 -16.7 7.7 79.3 723 107.8 50.2 72.2
8 Matt Ryan, ATL 81.0 2.9 -16.4 1.5 69.1 682 96.3 42.0 70.0
9 Philip Rivers, SD 77.2 0.0 -16.0 7.7 68.9 659 91.6 39.0 69.3
10 Joe Flacco, BAL 58.5 1.2 -12.5 12.1 59.3 616 82.4 33.3 67.8
11 Russell Wilson, SEA 44.5 32.4 -20.1 0.5 57.3 631 77.4 27.1 64.4
12 Andrew Luck, IND 61.4 8.4 -15.7 5.6 59.7 748 91.5 31.9 64.3
Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:59 pm to JS87
Saints had the number one offense after 15 games. Brees with a more stable offensive line probably throws less interceptions.
Some of his pics came at critical times though. Saints should have beat Atlanta in game one. Cleveland in game two. And gave the game away at Detroit.
7-9 vs. 10-6 would be huge !
Some of his pics came at critical times though. Saints should have beat Atlanta in game one. Cleveland in game two. And gave the game away at Detroit.
7-9 vs. 10-6 would be huge !
Posted on 12/28/14 at 5:01 pm to JS87
Brees has about two more good years left in him as a QB. I hope he finishes his career as a Saint.
But father time is starting to creep in on Drew.
True, he has great numbers this year but he made some very 'un-Brees' like plays which could be a sign that the body is just not their no more.
I appreciate what Brees has done for the Saints, without Brees, we don't have the Super Bowl win in 2009 and all those other great seasons.
Hopefully Benson, Loomis & Payton are looking into the future for a future QB to replace Brees.
But father time is starting to creep in on Drew.
True, he has great numbers this year but he made some very 'un-Brees' like plays which could be a sign that the body is just not their no more.
I appreciate what Brees has done for the Saints, without Brees, we don't have the Super Bowl win in 2009 and all those other great seasons.
Hopefully Benson, Loomis & Payton are looking into the future for a future QB to replace Brees.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 5:01 pm to JS87
Lol no
Posted on 12/28/14 at 5:05 pm to JS87
Can't answer based on the poor supporting crowd around him right now.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 5:16 pm to JS87
Sometimes QB's have bad seasons, his bad 1's depend on lots of bad play around him. Confidence in the O-line, and even the defense can affect a QB. He had a tough year as did the team in general. Chemistry level was very low. He is still capable of having his best year ever Imo. Many QB's have had great success in the twilight years. Warner , Farvre etc....
He needs a supporting cast, he is not a Manning, Brady, or Rogers type QB, guys that seem to excel no matter what, but he is elite. As long as he stays healthy he is still my choice as a fan.
Check that, come to think of it, Manning and Brady have always seem to have the supporting cast, so maybe I'm off on that
He needs a supporting cast, he is not a Manning, Brady, or Rogers type QB, guys that seem to excel no matter what, but he is elite. As long as he stays healthy he is still my choice as a fan.
Check that, come to think of it, Manning and Brady have always seem to have the supporting cast, so maybe I'm off on that
This post was edited on 12/28/14 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 12/28/14 at 5:22 pm to JS87
In all seriousness is there a large enough sample size to conclude that?
Posted on 12/28/14 at 5:33 pm to JS87
quote:
up and coming QB'
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Stafford
quote:
Even when Drew did have some pass protection this year, he just didn't seem to have that same zip on the ball or shuffling in the pocket as in years past.
Well I think he led the league in deep ball completion percentage. And led the league in completion percentage. But yeah, probably best just to judge using your eye test.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 6:13 pm to JS87
Drew is the master of avoiding rush from the edges by stepping up in the pocket and stepping into his throws downfield. The absolute garbage play of the interior line (Grubbs, Goodwin, Evans) forced Brees to have limited pocket mobility and have some really bad throws this season when pressured. Armstead and Strief are serviceable tackles but we absolutely must upgrade at center and at least one guard.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:33 pm to JS87
Not necessarily. He's not in peak form, but he has two seasons left at least of qb play to prove what he has left
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