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How will Black "Outrage du Jour" Affect White Working Class attitutes & voting ?
Posted on 12/28/14 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 12/28/14 at 3:55 pm
The Democrat Party has lost vast support amongst white working class people. They have effectively been shut out in The South. White working class people abandoned them in states like Maryland and Illinois in the last election cycle.
A lot of these white working class people don't feel too privileged. Even more of them don't feel that they have ever wronged a black person in any way. Many barely have their heads above water. Yet they are being told every day that black criminality is a thing to be understood and tolerated, maybe even celebrated but that their racial attitudes and intentions are suspect by nature of their birth.
With that in mind, it seems like the emergence of this Race Grievance Outrage de Jour will be catastrophic for the Democrats. The Race Grievance Industry is really poisoning the well and people won't want to be associated with a party that presents Al Sharpton as a Race Teacher . They already have blacks and white liberals in their coalition. But surely they realize that they are going to create a backlash by going all in with Sharpton and that mindset. Are they just writing the white working class off? Is this just their way of announcing it?
A lot of these white working class people don't feel too privileged. Even more of them don't feel that they have ever wronged a black person in any way. Many barely have their heads above water. Yet they are being told every day that black criminality is a thing to be understood and tolerated, maybe even celebrated but that their racial attitudes and intentions are suspect by nature of their birth.
With that in mind, it seems like the emergence of this Race Grievance Outrage de Jour will be catastrophic for the Democrats. The Race Grievance Industry is really poisoning the well and people won't want to be associated with a party that presents Al Sharpton as a Race Teacher . They already have blacks and white liberals in their coalition. But surely they realize that they are going to create a backlash by going all in with Sharpton and that mindset. Are they just writing the white working class off? Is this just their way of announcing it?
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 9:07 am
Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:08 pm to Lsupimp
Democrats will not be winning many elections if they keep pissing off white voters. The Hispanics and Blacks are not a big enough electorate yet.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:09 pm to Lsupimp
Another day, another race based topic started by you.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:13 pm to Easy
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Another day, another race based topic started by you.
wish the media would listen to this..It seems like their biggest distraction pieces are racial these days, I just don't get it.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:16 pm to Lsupimp
I have been telling folks for years that the biggest racists in America are blacks. Some of the biggest ones are in the pulpits waving their Bibles.
And the biggest racis of all is in the WH right now.
Not all blacks are and most blacks are good honest folks trying to live their lifes in peace.
It no longer serves the white community to vote Democratic.
And the biggest racis of all is in the WH right now.
Not all blacks are and most blacks are good honest folks trying to live their lifes in peace.
It no longer serves the white community to vote Democratic.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:18 pm to Lsupimp
They are effectively grinding down their base to blacks and academic hard left types/hipster idiots. I honestly do not see how working white class white folk will identify with them any longer. That's partly why they're delusional enough to think Elizabeth Warren is a realistic 2016 candidate.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:21 pm to Easy
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Another day, another race based topic started by you.
It's an important message. Regardless who starts it.
Don't shoot the messenger.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:23 pm to NIH
White working class people are economically and politically neglible. As a group, they are too in debt, too overly financed to their churches and appearances (house poor) and are motivated against something. Not for something.
The mid terms showed that they can mobilize but the dems barely made an effort.
2/3rds of the us didn't even vote. You will see massive turnouts that cultivate to groups who aren't white and working class.
Heck, Mississippi got a HUGE number of African Americans to vote repub for Cochran. The mid terms are not indicative of what will happen in 2016.
The mid terms showed that they can mobilize but the dems barely made an effort.
2/3rds of the us didn't even vote. You will see massive turnouts that cultivate to groups who aren't white and working class.
Heck, Mississippi got a HUGE number of African Americans to vote repub for Cochran. The mid terms are not indicative of what will happen in 2016.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:30 pm to mahdragonz
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Yet they are being told every day that black criminality is a thing to be understood and tolerated, maybe even celebrated but that their racial attitudes and intentions are suspect by nature of their birth.
No one is saying criminality - black or otherwise - should be tolerated or celebrated. You are nuts.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:33 pm to Lsupimp
I agree. I think a lot of white people are starting to wake up to the democrat party's war on whites.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:56 pm to Lsupimp
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Even more of them don't feel that they have ever wronged a black person in any way. Many barely have their heads above water. Yet they are being told every day that black criminality is a thing to be understood and tolerated, maybe even celebrated but that their racial attitudes
As a socialist I agree that the democrats losing white working-class voters is a problem and it's refreshing to see a conservative agree.
The solution is to concentrate on economic issues but the Republic party does what it can to stir up racial animosity. It's the Republicans who benefit more from racial unrest since blacks are voting democratic regardless.
The solution with the democrats is to talk to white working class voters about economic issues and how government spending on education benefits them and greater regulation of wall street and corporations helps them.
The problem with the republic party is that they can't win on economics so they race bait. They benefit more from racial problems than democrats since they tend to gain misinformed white voters.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 5:21 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
Wow! fricking Twilight Zone stuff there.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 5:26 pm to NIH
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They are effectively grinding down their base to blacks and academic hard left types/hipster idiots. I honestly do not see how working white class white folk will identify with them any longer. That's partly why they're delusional enough to think Elizabeth Warren is a realistic 2016 candidate.
Add to this the ever diminishing labor unions and their influence on the party.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 5:27 pm to mahdragonz
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No one is saying criminality - black or otherwise - should be tolerated or celebrated. You are nuts.
Sure they are. When someone launches into a thesis on why we need to understand why people are looting stores, they're telling us to tolerate criminality.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 5:31 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
Your Narrative may have resonated outside the Liberal Fever Swamps a generation ago. Alas your analysis is stale.
The Democratic Party circa 2014 does little more than TAX the working middle class. Obamacare was the big wake-up call for white working class people. That is not a thesis, that was proven in the 2010 and 2014 midterms. They have essentially abandoned them in favor of a client-base that is comprised of little more than Coastal elites and minorities.
I am suggesting that Racial unrest may have a similar cultural effect on white working class people that causes them to run even faster from The Democrat Party that seems to be sponsoring it. I can't prove this, but it seems to be a logical reaction by the white working class electorate. It may even have the power to create new voters.
Obviously Dems have some burgeoning demographic advantages that are apparent in Presidential election years. But that advantage is muted significantly, if working class whites go to the polls and Democrats have an "average" candidate that fails to excite the minority base like Obama did.
The Democratic Party circa 2014 does little more than TAX the working middle class. Obamacare was the big wake-up call for white working class people. That is not a thesis, that was proven in the 2010 and 2014 midterms. They have essentially abandoned them in favor of a client-base that is comprised of little more than Coastal elites and minorities.
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GENTRY LIBERALS. The great raison d'être for left-wing politics – advocating for the middle- and working classes – has been refocused to attend more closely to the policy imperatives and interests of small, highly affluent classes, as well as the powerful public sector.-Joel Kotkin,
I am suggesting that Racial unrest may have a similar cultural effect on white working class people that causes them to run even faster from The Democrat Party that seems to be sponsoring it. I can't prove this, but it seems to be a logical reaction by the white working class electorate. It may even have the power to create new voters.
Obviously Dems have some burgeoning demographic advantages that are apparent in Presidential election years. But that advantage is muted significantly, if working class whites go to the polls and Democrats have an "average" candidate that fails to excite the minority base like Obama did.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 5:37 pm to Lsupimp
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The Democrat Party has lost vast support amongst white working class people.
And the GOP has lost vast support among pretty much all minority groups. Why do you think that is?
Posted on 12/28/14 at 5:41 pm to onmymedicalgrind
Preaching fiscal responsibility and self reliance does not play well with minorities that have a victim's complex.
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