re: $20 mil Over to $20 mil Under the Cap in 3 Easy Steps(and Lose Only 3 Players)

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Especially since Payton/Loomis have hit home runs on their last two mid-priced FA CB signings.

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And the fact that the Saints have bombed on literally every CB we've drafted outside of Porter and Molden.

And that's ever, not just under Payton/Loomis. We literally can not draft a (good/long term)corner.

Start fresh on the whole interior

Evans was drafted and is a Payton guy. He's a 5 time Pro Bowler (2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013) and 4 time First team All-Pro (2009, 2010, 2011, 2012) and 1 time Second-team All-Pro (2013) and was with us when we won the Super Bowl. I just don't see Evans not being a Saint anytime soon.

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On the guards, yeah very unlikely we cut both and we could keep both

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If we can get a decent guard in FA and another in the draft, I can see them cutting both.

He was saying brees has no incentive to take a paycut

@euquol paycut =/= restructuring. Brees has every incentive to extend his contract though, which would lessen his cap hit.

As for Evans/Grubbs, Evans is gone. He's finished, done, etc...hes' getting manhandled and seriously him and goodwin are the reason why Brees gets pressured so much. 4/5 times a bad throw or sack is due to those two.

Cutting Grubbs this year is not worth it imo. He's only going to save 3.6mil while losing 6mil in dead money. It'd make more sense next year when its 3.0 dead and 7.3mil in savings. He's not as bad as Evans and I'm sure his play will improve with a better center and RG.

Cutting Evans and Grubbs means we need to sign one (Iupati) and draft one (Collins perhaps). I don't see both getting cut, but weirder things have happened.

We might just designate Grubbs to be a June 1 cut.

I read the article to say Brees will still want $20 million per year even in an extended contract so its best to wait until his contract year to even try anything.

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I read the article to say Brees will still want $20 million per year even in an extended contract so its best to wait until his contract year to even try anything.

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at 20mil/yr and the cap going up, hard numbers tell a complete lie. 20mil with a salary cap of 145mil is 13.8% of the total cap.

Just a few years back, 18mil was the elite (Brady/Manning) cost which was on a 120mil salary cap. That comes out to 15%.

So really, 20mil is still fine. sign him to it and ease the cap situation the next 2 years so we can have a shot. It took 1 year for Brady to turn his numbers back into elite tier. Better receivers, better protection. they were in cap situations as well, but we can get it done.

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He has zero incentive

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If he wants the team to play better, then yes, he does. Giving him a one year extension with an non guaranteed 2017 base salary of, say, $35m (make up any high number you want, the Saints and Brees know he wouldn't see it) would allow us to spread some of his 2015 base salary across two additional seasons. They do this by converting base salary into signing bonus. When this happens, the team pays him that money immediately rather than evenly over 17 weeks of the season. This whole setup gives Brees just as much leverage as before. Do you think Brees is going to say "No thanks, the idea of making interest on ~$7m over the next 6 months doesn't appeal to me."

Frankly if he's not willing to do a Brady like deal, I say we let him play out his contract instead of kicking the can further down the road to hurt the team when he's 40 and no longer here.

To me it's worth the risk to see if he will shite the bed again the next 2 seasons.