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re: What did Will do to kill offense at FL

Posted on 12/2/14 at 6:16 pm to
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 6:16 pm to
I just hope he doesn't go to TAMU or Auburn. Stay out of the West. Its too strong already.


His defense with their offenses would be deadly. Hopefully South Carolina calls and he goes to learn from his good friend Spurrier how to run a program.


Posted by Dr. Shultz
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:35 pm to
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There is really no such thing as "spread" and "pro-style" players. At few positions such as fullback, perhaps an argument can be made; but overall oline is oline, rbs are rbs, wrs are wrs, they can play in any system



Actually there is. Florida mostly had speedy small backs which succeed more in spread. In a pro-style you need a bruising back.

Pro-style needs bigger lineman that our maulers.

Spread needs smaller, quick lineman who are good at HUNH and zone blocking.

Pro-style QBs = pocket passers

Spread QBs = zone read\shotgun style passers.

it IS completely different.

Same can be said for Rich Rod at Michigan. Dude inheritted a bunch of players that were used to pro-style offense and 4-3 defense instead of his spread offense and 3-3-5 defense.

The players DO matter
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51874 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:42 pm to
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Pro-style QBs = pocket passers 

Spread QBs = zone read\shotgun style passers. 


Eh Peyton Manning runs both
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:43 pm to
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Same can be said for Rich Rod at Michigan. Dude inheritted a bunch of players that were used to pro-style offense

and dominated on offense in a zone-read scheme
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:43 pm to
they do matter greatly. Les has this problem, we recruited a hodge podge of players and then jammed them into a 1970 offense. Some guys like Buga will dominate no matter what system they are put in.
Posted by Dr. Shultz
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jun 2013
6391 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:10 pm to
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Same can be said for Rich Rod at Michigan. Dude inheritted a bunch of players that were used to pro-style offense


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and dominated on offense in a zone-read scheme



In Rich Rod's first year at Michigan his team went DEAD LAST in total offense and scoring offense in the big 10.

In his 2nd year he was 7th in total offense in the big 10

In his 3rd, and final year, he was 1st in total offense in the big 10.

This proves my point that he couldn't do it with pro-style offense style players and didn't field a good offense until he had a couple of years to get his style of players into the system.

quote:

Eh Peyton Manning runs both



Did you just say Peyton Manning runs both? He runs a zone-read offense? Last time I checked he doesn't run any zone-read because he is a strictly pocket passer.

Also, bringing the GOAT NFL QB into a conversation about coaches in college is pretty irrelevant to this debate.
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 8:13 pm
Posted by PG
Mandeville
Member since Sep 2012
2590 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:13 pm to
Talked to Miles about how to run an offense .........
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:08 pm to
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Actually there is. Florida mostly had speedy small backs which succeed more in spread. In a pro-style you need a bruising back.


Really? Small speedy Chris Johnson ran for 2000 in the NFL


quote:

Pro-style needs bigger lineman that our maulers.

Spread needs smaller, quick lineman who are good at HUNH and zone blocking.




How much smaller do you think they are? 220lb olinemen? And all spread offense use zone blocking.






QB is very important. It was the downfall of Muschamp. Not because Driskall was a spread qb, it is because he sucks.
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
13613 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:18 pm to
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And I do think Weis has a roll in all of this.
ISWYDT
Posted by Smoke Green
Tianjin, Peoples Republic of China
Member since Apr 2005
4342 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:33 pm to
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Guy is a defensive coordinator and has absolutely no idea how to run a program.



sounds a lot like Bebe Orgeron, although Bebe can recruit like hell.
Posted by LSUsuperfresh
Member since Oct 2010
8338 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:37 pm to
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When you don't have a qb who can regularly throw and complete an 8 to 15 yard pass.



Yeah... I can't imagine what it would be like to have no intermediate passing game...
Posted by LuciusSulla
Oxford, MS
Member since Nov 2010
2703 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 1:01 am to
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ISWYDT


The thought really did cross my mind.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69273 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 1:23 am to
couldnt make up his mind with running the ball or going to the spread.

2012 lived off a run game and good defense. Then tried to go spread.

What was UFs best win this year? UGA. They threw 6 passes and ran it 60 times.

Should have stuck with the Les Miles philosophy and hed still have his job.
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
11122 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 1:27 am to
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When you don't have a qb who can regularly throw and complete an 8 to 15 yard pass
Are you talking about Florida or LSU?
Posted by TiptonInSC
Aiken, SC
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:52 am to
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What did Will do to kill offense at FL


Posted by Brageous
Member since Jul 2008
107724 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:54 am to
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having to follow Florida's most successful coach of all time,


He followed Spurrier?
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25346 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:58 am to
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Really? Small speedy Chris Johnson ran for 2000 in the NFL


And after that workload his yards and ypc have trended down every year since with the exception of a slight bump in 2012.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7745 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:30 am to
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He followed Spurrier?


Spurrier won two national championships?
Posted by TheSandman
Notasulga
Member since Nov 2010
19413 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 10:21 am to
73 SEC Champioships > 2 National Championships
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