re: Official The Walking Dead S05E08 "Coda" NO COMICS

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Also Kirkman even said that after this episode, the theme of the show was going to change, and the group was going to be put in much different situations.

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I'm interested to see how things move forward. I assume they will keep finding new refuges to seek out, as that's what it would take to survive a ZA, but also keep viewers interested.

Do we know that all of Terminus was eradicated, or is there a potential for some of them to still be out there?

Going back a bit in the thread, but:

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I would be nice if the characters did common sense things, but if everything went right and played out just like it would in our heads, then there would be no conflict or drama...

Drama comes about from people making non-sensical decisions.

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To me, that's the difference between a good show (or movie, book, etc.) and a great one. A great one will find a way to introduce conflict and drama while still keeping the characters acting organically to their character. A merely good show has to fall back on characters acting in ways they would not normally act for the sake of moving the plot in a certain direction.

It doesn't always have to be charcters acting with "common sense" but if common sense is part of a character or group of characters make up they shouldn't throw it away for the sake of artificially created tension.

That's why, even though I enjoy Walking Dead a lot and continue to watch it, for me it does not rise to the level of a great show.

Man, when I saw Rick and Darryl crying - I fricking lost it.

Hot men in tears is sexy. But also sad.

And if Rick hadn't killed Lamson, they would have had a third person to trade for Noah and Beth wouldn't have gone cuckoo and stabbed Dawn, ergo Beth would have survived.

Every decisions has consequences, Rick.

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It doesn't always have to be charcters acting with "common sense" but if common sense is part of a character or group of characters make up they shouldn't throw it away for the sake of artificially created tension.

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none of the characters have portrayed any constant semblance of common sense, so I would think that the things that are happening shouldn't be surprising

Pretty sure that from the previews of the second part of the season that group is still moving towards Richmond or DC. They'll meet up with Morgan.


Also, to the dude saying they only kill off scrubs, I really don't see Beth, Dale, Shane, Lori, Andrea, Herschel, as "scrubs". Rick is our main character, so they can't kill him off, but everyone of the people listed fell into the important supporting cast category. I left out T-Dogg because dude never said anything more than 2 lines per episode. Now, no one liked Lori or Andrea, but Dale and Herschel were the moral compasses of the group (watchya arse, Tyrese) and mostly well liked characters. At one point in time, a bunch of people in threads like this thought Shane should kill Rick because Shane was making the tough decisions in the correct ways that Rick is doing now. People viewed (I viewed) Beth as like my little sister in the apocalypse; she's damaged and not naive about shite going down, but there's still a sweetness and almost innocence to here that makes you want to protect her. Losing her broke my heart more than losing Herschel. At least (hopefully) we get see more arse-shots of Lauren Cohan...

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For that matter, I don't think Dawn would have risked her life in such a blatant manner for the sake of getting Noah back or "keeping up appearances" in front of the other cops.

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you see she would, and Beth finally realized that...she realized that if somebody didn't stop Dawn then she would constantly be hurting other survivors because Dawn needed someone to manipulate.

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Beth comes to the understanding that Dawn is actually super manipulative, and uses other people to accomplish what she needs done.

Many of the other police are like this as well.

The problem is that this is becoming increasingly problematic. Dawn effectively uses Beth to get try and get Noah back.

Beth realizes that this cycle will only continue and more people will get hurt by Dawn and co. So she tried to stab Dawn

When Dawn shoots Beth and is killed by Daryl, the unnamed female cop steps up, telling everyone that Dawn's problems were her own, and that they don't represent the group. As such, there is no more need for violence.

Beth becomes a hero, saving not only Noah, but the other folks in the hospital (potentially), demonstrating how strong she really was.

In comparison, Dawn looks weak, and it is clear that she lost the respect of the other cops after shooting Beth in front of them.

Yeah, I think I heard Michonne saying in the "scenes from the next episode", say something like "we are 100 miles away" if that's from Atlanta we can do the math.

I think you are right, and Beth knew she wasn't gonna kill her with those scissors, but was trying to get shite started because Dawn would never stop.

Beth was the wildcard of the group that day. Wildcard Bitches!

I just want to say that one of the pleasures of my Sundays has been to let enough of the show pass to be able skip all of the commercials while I watch it and then come here to see the moment of the thread when the OH shite event happened and the aftermath.

I'll see you guys next year.