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Why is everyone so mad about Harris sitting?
Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:02 pm
Yes, Jennings was horrible vs Arky, but he put LSU in the position to beat Bama (if we don't freaking kick it out of bounds). The offense was doing well and the team was improving prior to Arky.
Also history has shown that the recent "successful" LSU QB's all either sat or were redshirted their freshman season. (used wikipedia to refresh my memory)
Rohan didn't play his freshman
Mauck redshirted
JaMarcus redshirted
Matt Flynn didn't play
Mett sat for a year even after being coming in from JUCO.
LSU QB's that saw significant playing time as a freshman:
Jarrett Lee
Jordan Jefferson
ETA: Not to mention the last 2 heisman winners were redshirt freshman.
Also history has shown that the recent "successful" LSU QB's all either sat or were redshirted their freshman season. (used wikipedia to refresh my memory)
Rohan didn't play his freshman
Mauck redshirted
JaMarcus redshirted
Matt Flynn didn't play
Mett sat for a year even after being coming in from JUCO.
LSU QB's that saw significant playing time as a freshman:
Jarrett Lee
Jordan Jefferson
ETA: Not to mention the last 2 heisman winners were redshirt freshman.
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 5:05 pm
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:04 pm to WeeWee
He can't move the offense down the field except for handing it off to the backs. That's the problem. Harris showed some extreme potential in that cream puff game and Miss State. Yes he floundered against Auburn, but I'd say Jennings Arkansas performance was worse. Just baffling why you don't go with the more talented guy considering anyone can turn around and hand the ball off.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:06 pm to WeeWee
Jennings barely did shite against Alabama besides the TD pass. He spotted them 3 points before the half, and then went 0-4 attempts in OT.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:07 pm to WeeWee
The offense is so bad that it's become the narrative. And that should be unacceptable. And if a Jennings led offense just gets worse and worse, why not at least get the other young QB some meaningful snaps? If you wanted to sit Harris, you should have given him the redshirt. Otherwise, this year has been wasted in terms of QB dev
Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:09 pm to WeeWee
because we keep losing
Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:09 pm to WeeWee
We scored 10, 13, and 0 points consecutively in games that you deemed our offense to be " improving and doing well".
Defense, defense, defense is the only reason LSU looked good for a few games.
Defense, defense, defense is the only reason LSU looked good for a few games.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:10 pm to WeeWee
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but he put LSU in the position to beat Bama
Nah, our RBs did that, unless you're counting handoffs.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:10 pm to WeeWee
You answered your own question...
LSU has a history of under developing QB's.
That is why Mett is the only one in the NFL that has any kind of shot at becoming a franchise QB.
Plenty of teams play Freshmen QB, A&M, Miami and Clemson come to mind.
There are FBS schools that have young QB's that are running complicate offenses and have high QB ratings, why not LSU ?
Shouldn't you be a little tired of history repeating itself ?
You don't have to be a negi-tiger to expect more from a high paid staff and a Power 5 school.
LSU has a history of under developing QB's.
That is why Mett is the only one in the NFL that has any kind of shot at becoming a franchise QB.
Plenty of teams play Freshmen QB, A&M, Miami and Clemson come to mind.
There are FBS schools that have young QB's that are running complicate offenses and have high QB ratings, why not LSU ?
Shouldn't you be a little tired of history repeating itself ?
You don't have to be a negi-tiger to expect more from a high paid staff and a Power 5 school.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:11 pm to WeeWee
Because we can already see what's NOT working.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:12 pm to WeeWee
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if we don't freaking kick it out of bounds
Do you really think this?
Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:16 pm to WeeWee
The people bitching the loudest don't actually care about Harris or his development. He's just the best means to shite talk Miles right now, because LSU isn't winning games. If LSU was undefeated and Jennings had the same stats people would just call him a game manager.
A true freshman QB getting meaningful playing time is an anomaly in CFB. If Harris were to start against aTm and play as he did against AU, they'll just declare him terrible and move on to saying how Miles can't find or develop QBs. There's no real point in trying to talk about anything in terms longer than a week or two around here. Half the people posting now will be gone after the aTm win, whether Harris plays or not.
A true freshman QB getting meaningful playing time is an anomaly in CFB. If Harris were to start against aTm and play as he did against AU, they'll just declare him terrible and move on to saying how Miles can't find or develop QBs. There's no real point in trying to talk about anything in terms longer than a week or two around here. Half the people posting now will be gone after the aTm win, whether Harris plays or not.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:16 pm to WeeWee
I think people are just pining for something different. I'm not convinced Harris (at least this year) will magically make our offense not suck dick, but we might as well give it a shot. I don't really understand people losing their goddamn minds over it, but that's the way it goes.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:17 pm to WeeWee
For me personally, it's because Jennings is proven to be incapable and I want Harris to have equal opportunity to either prove himself capable, or prove himself to be equally incapable. I don't feel like he's getting an equal shot as Jennings at all! Jennings has drowned, now let's see if Harris will sink or swim.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:23 pm to WeeWee
quote:
Yes, Jennings was horrible vs Arky, but he put LSU in the position to beat Bama (if we don't freaking kick it out of bounds)..
Is this a fricking joke? He didn't do shite in the bama game. We almost won in spite of him.
i normally don't post on the rant during the year but I was so stunned by this comment I felt compelled to respond.
so do you think Johnny and Winston would not have won the heisman if they got playing time the previous year? Just flawed logic to believe that lead to a heisman. shite FSU might have been back to back going for three if Winston started over Manuels sorry arse
Alright goodnight all enjoy thanksgiving and geaux Tigers
Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:23 pm to WeeWee
Because Jennings' pass completion is 47% and we haven't passed for more than 150 yards in several games. Sometimes Harris provides a necessary spark like in the New Mexico State game, and we needed it more than ever against Arkansas.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:31 pm to WeeWee
I just think Jennings has been so abysmal that we all want to see if Harris can do better. If he stinks it up, he stinks it up. Then, we just go into the bowl game and offseason with an open position and the chance for either guy to win the job next year.
If he plays a great game, you prepare him for the bowl game and start him in it. Either way, you at lest see if the Auburn game was just a terrible night and not indicative of what he can actually do.
Also, the way we've looked at QB this year, wide receiver recruits should absolutely run from LSU if they don't at least see a glimmer of hope from the passing game.
If he plays a great game, you prepare him for the bowl game and start him in it. Either way, you at lest see if the Auburn game was just a terrible night and not indicative of what he can actually do.
Also, the way we've looked at QB this year, wide receiver recruits should absolutely run from LSU if they don't at least see a glimmer of hope from the passing game.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:32 pm to WeeWee
I think LSU will have a good football team in 2015 and that Harris will win the job in the offseason.
That is all
That is all
Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:35 pm to WeeWee
quote:
Yes, Jennings was horrible vs Arky, but he put LSU in the position to beat Bama (if we don't freaking kick it out of bounds). The offense was doing well and the team was improving prior to Arky.
I like Jennings. I think he's a top notch leader and person. He showed a lot helping out Harris on the sideline during the auburn game. He's a terrible QB and throwing looks difficult for him, plain and simple.
Harris is a natural thrower. The ball just comes out of his hand with ease like JR, Mett, Roham, Brees, Luck, Rodgers, etc.
That isn't something that can be taught at this level.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:35 pm to WeeWee
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The offense was doing well and the team was improving prior to Arky.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: 
:bow: :bow: 
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: 
:yack: :lol: :lol: :lol: 
Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:35 pm to WeeWee
Because Jennings is not a capable QB. Our offense is shite. If it's going to be shite I at least want to see the other guy get a shot.
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