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Anyone Think The Would Be Rioters Want A No True Bill...
Posted on 11/24/14 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 11/24/14 at 2:24 pm
decision on the indictment of Officer Wilson?
I honestly think there are a large faction of individuals that are deep down hoping Wilson is no indicted so that they feel justified in rioting.
Moreover, I think the news media is hoping for the same thing.
I honestly think there are a large faction of individuals that are deep down hoping Wilson is no indicted so that they feel justified in rioting.
Moreover, I think the news media is hoping for the same thing.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 2:27 pm to DeltaDoc
I think it's possible.
I also think that there would be some massively disappointed folks if there is no indictment an there is no rioting or looting.
I also think that there would be some massively disappointed folks if there is no indictment an there is no rioting or looting.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 2:30 pm to DeltaDoc
There's a difference between a protester and a rioter. I think the people protesting want to see an indictment. The others are there for their own reasons and it has nothing to do with a grand jury decision.
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 11/24/14 at 2:31 pm to Green Chili Tiger
I don't think they care what the result is. At this point, they've pretty much said they will be out in force regardless of the decision.
I guess the real question is whether they do something more bold than causing a McDonalds to shut its doors until they passed.
I guess the real question is whether they do something more bold than causing a McDonalds to shut its doors until they passed.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 2:36 pm to DeltaDoc
Probably. However, to most of them, they will assume the officer was found guilty if he is indicted. I doubt most of them know the difference between an indictment and a guilty verdict.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 2:36 pm to teke184
I guess my point is, that for every would be rioter/looter who is just looking for an excuse to get free shite, there is someone else waiting just as anxiously to say "See what animals these people are. I told you they would riot/loot".
Posted on 11/24/14 at 2:42 pm to DeltaDoc
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Moreover, I think the news media is hoping for the same thing.
Well duh.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 2:42 pm to DeltaDoc
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I think the news media is hoping for the same thing.
Dream come true for them.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 2:43 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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I guess my point is, that for every would be rioter/looter who is just looking for an excuse to get free shite, there is someone else waiting just as anxiously to say "See what animals these people are. I told you they would riot/loot".
And?
Which to you is worse?
Posted on 11/24/14 at 2:56 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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guess my point is, that for every would be rioter/looter who is just looking for an excuse to get free shite, there is someone else waiting just as anxiously to say "See what animals these people are. I told you they would riot/loot".
Who is more of a menace to society - the "prejudiced or the rioter/looter"?
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:14 pm to DeltaDoc
Rioters do, perhaps the special interest agitators do. The protestors do not.
Seeing the group of people gathered in Ferguson as a single, monolithic mob is a huge mistake.
People have the right to protest under our system. It is misguided in this case. Michael Brown made a number of bad decisions in this case, which resulted in his death. The officer did not hunt, stalk and execute the young man for being black or some other nefarious purpose.
Now, whether or not more law enforcement training is required or if their protocols in having solo officers investigate crimes with a high potential for confrontations with an offender may need to be revised as is the practice of having officers ride alone. IMHO, there is little question the arrest would have been made without incident if Wilson had a partner or backup when the confrontation with Brown began - in fact, I don't believe the confrontation would have happened at all. Brown and ole boy would have been detained, with Brown likely arrested on scene. He would have pled to a misdemeanor (if an otherwise clean record for stuff like this) and walked, at most, a few weeks later.
He chose poorly.
Seeing the group of people gathered in Ferguson as a single, monolithic mob is a huge mistake.
People have the right to protest under our system. It is misguided in this case. Michael Brown made a number of bad decisions in this case, which resulted in his death. The officer did not hunt, stalk and execute the young man for being black or some other nefarious purpose.
Now, whether or not more law enforcement training is required or if their protocols in having solo officers investigate crimes with a high potential for confrontations with an offender may need to be revised as is the practice of having officers ride alone. IMHO, there is little question the arrest would have been made without incident if Wilson had a partner or backup when the confrontation with Brown began - in fact, I don't believe the confrontation would have happened at all. Brown and ole boy would have been detained, with Brown likely arrested on scene. He would have pled to a misdemeanor (if an otherwise clean record for stuff like this) and walked, at most, a few weeks later.
He chose poorly.
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:22 pm to Green Chili Tiger
quote:You and I must travel in different circles because I can't think of a single person I know who would think/feel that way. Not one.
there is someone else waiting just as anxiously to say "See what animals these people are. I told you they would riot/loot".
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:28 pm to L.A.
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You and I must travel in different circles because I can't think of a single person I know who would think/feel that way. Not one.
He's on these boards. And you are delusional if you can't admit that there are a significant number of those on here.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:29 pm to Big Scrub TX
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He's on these boards. And you are delusional if you can't admit that there are a significant number of those on here.
Can you name 2?
Just so I can keep a watch on them.
TIA
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:33 pm to Big Scrub TX
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He's on these boards. And you are delusional if you can't admit that there are a significant number of those on here.
So I'll ask you: which is worse? The person actually burning, stealing and destroying? Or the person merely commenting on it?
On second thought, never mind. I know what you think.
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:34 pm to DeltaDoc
I am not sure they will know what to do if the Grand Jury comes back with a negligent homicide.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:37 pm to Jay Quest
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There's a difference between a protester and a rioter.
And I tried to move a little bit towards this point with my post. Whether or not I agree with them, the protestors are (or they ought to be) within their rights to march, call for the resignation of whomever, call for changes in police practices, etc., as long as they do so in a peaceful, lawful way.
I didn't see evidence of the organized protestors (at least last time - in the intervening weeks, some straight up Marxist revolutionary f*ckers have gotten involved) - other than getting a little bit chippy with the cops - posing the significant threats to life and property.
Rioters and looters (and there is significant overlap, here) are mixing in with the regular protestors, as well as using the focus on the protest sites as a distraction while they, tactically, attack elsewhere have been the biggest problems so far.
What may happen is that one of these agitators will mix in with the crowd, throw a bottle, Molotov, fire a weapon or some such nonsense and trigger a bloodbath - that is the most likely way this gets out of hand.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:41 pm to Godfather1
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Or the person merely commenting on it?
The person commenting on it or the person actively pulling for it to happen so that they can comment on it? Big distinction. The latter is ethically and morally despicable.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:42 pm to Ace Midnight
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What may happen is that one of these agitators will mix in with the crowd, throw a bottle, Molotov, fire a weapon or some such nonsense and trigger a bloodbath - that is the most likely way this gets out of hand.
Agreed. And then the usual suspects on here will happily pile on and conflate the two groups in order to disparage every single person involved.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:43 pm to Big Scrub TX
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And then the usual suspects on here will happily pile on and conflate the two groups
Again, please name 2 of them.
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