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re: The reason Toyota is tops of all vehicle manufacturers
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:37 pm to alajones
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:37 pm to alajones
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This seriously means nothing. Local auctions, local black books, not websites are where you find what your vehicle is really worth.
I'm glad you love your truck. But I really believe Toyotas are about the most overpriced truck on the market. They are gas hogs and have interiors from the 90's.
OKAy NADA.
Or better yet last year I went to look at a Santa Fe and was offered $10,750 for a trade in and I paid $9,100 for the truck.
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. But I really believe Toyotas are about the most overpriced truck on the market.
And That means more than KBB?
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:39 pm to CaptainsWafer
I actually use autotrader and see what comprable trucks sell for.
But I doubt I will sell this truck.
I like buying used cars.
Needed a weekend car, went to Dallas and got a nice 745 Li for $7,000. Has nearly 100,000 miles, but it was a $80,000 car brand new, so I'm happy with it.
But I doubt I will sell this truck.
I like buying used cars.
Needed a weekend car, went to Dallas and got a nice 745 Li for $7,000. Has nearly 100,000 miles, but it was a $80,000 car brand new, so I'm happy with it.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:46 pm to Napoleon
Autotrader is definitely better. But there's a reason no one uses KBB, it's invredibly inflated and inaccurate.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:46 pm to Napoleon
quote:okay I can't speak to every anecdotal thing you bring up.
Or better yet last year I went to look at a Santa Fe and was offered $10,750 for a trade in and I paid $9,100 for the truck.
As far as right now, new car sales, buyers pay more for full size Toyotas than any other brand.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:49 pm to CaptainsWafer
Didn't read the whole thread, but this is why Toyota has always been very particular in their design/manufacturing methods and schedule.
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They basically invented lean manufacturing and the processes for design to development.
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They basically invented lean manufacturing and the processes for design to development.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:52 pm to swanny297
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Tundras are about the ugliest truck on the market
This although the Honda P/U is pretty fugly too.
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:13 pm to LSUtigerME
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They basically invented lean manufacturing and the processes for design to development
It's called the Toyota way - and Henry Ford pioneered this long before any other car company
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:16 pm to swanny297
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Tundras are about the ugliest truck on the market
Did they stop making Avalanches? Or are those considered some type of crossover?
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:27 pm to nes2010
quote:Yep -- and they are right up there with the Tundra
Did they stop making Avalanches
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:32 pm to meauxjeaux2
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why do you think Toyota owners hold onto their vehicles so long?
Because they can't afford to go buy something nice?
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:37 pm to swanny297
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It's called the Toyota way - and Henry Ford pioneered this long before any other car company
Uhh. No. But it does have it's roots in American excellence. Kaizen, and ultimately Lean, evolved from the American efforts to rebuild Japanese infrastructure after WWII. Edward Deming led the charge and, interestingly, what westerners refer to as Kaizen Circles are still to this day referred to as Deming Circles in Japan.
No doubt Ford fathered much of the improvements in mass production, but it has very little to do with continuous improvement through Lean. (Toyota does not do Six Sigma, which has some notable flaws).
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:44 pm to jrodLSUke
quote:what would you consider a solid buy for the $ ?
Because they can't afford to go buy something nice?
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:47 pm to Yewkindewit
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Have an old 97 extended cab 4x4 with 200k miles. I have to fight off the people who offer to buy the damn thing wherever I go.
I have a 97 regular cab 4x4 with 155k on it. People are always trying to get it from me.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:52 pm to Themole
Any FJ cruiser owners ?
I have one . Zero issues
I have one . Zero issues
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:53 pm to CaptainsWafer
Sorry for the delay...I'm thinking 2012 or later. At least that's what I've been told.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:58 pm to The Sad Banana
Yea I was going to give you a stern NO if you were looking for something older as a daily driver.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:59 pm to swanny297
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:59 pm to CaptainsWafer
Do the ones 2012 or later get better gas mileage? I know nurse was saying something about the engine being better.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 2:05 pm to The Sad Banana
2001 s-10 194,000 Miles with 4.3 V-6.
I have people at work always trying to get it from me. If Dexacool coolant wouldn't have been implemented into their design this truck would've had very few problems.
I've been looking at new trucks lately and I'm trying to figure out how they are coming up with these prices. If you get anything like a basic 6 cylinder mid size truck it's $30,000.
I have people at work always trying to get it from me. If Dexacool coolant wouldn't have been implemented into their design this truck would've had very few problems.
I've been looking at new trucks lately and I'm trying to figure out how they are coming up with these prices. If you get anything like a basic 6 cylinder mid size truck it's $30,000.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 2:05 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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Being a consistent market leader is absolutely an indicator of a successful design. Appealing to your personal sense of style is absolutely not.
No, market leadership is a function of sales relative to competing products. Sales are driven entirely by the perceived value of the entire package offered to consumers. Sony's Betamax was a better product than JVC's VHS, but the VHS format was the market leader because it was the best value to consumers. There was nothing really wrong with the VHS, it was just not the best.
Like the VHS, The Cruze, Focus, and Corolla are wildly popular worldwide not because they are the best designs, but because they offer the best value to the most consumers.
All three of those cars are bland and uncomfortable and neither are the best in their class....but they are cheap to own and operate, and they sell at price points that maximize value to consumers, and both are widely available at thousands of dealers and can be serviced and repaired virtually everywhere cheaply.
The Chevy Traverse, Toyota Camry, and Chevrolet Tahoe are all top (or near top depending on the year) sales leaders within their class. They may provide the best value and this the most compelling choice to consumers, but none are the best cars in their class.
The Mercedes GL, for example, is widely considered to be one of the best 7 passenger SUVs on sale today. It is similar to the Betamax where the Chevy Traverse is similar to the VHS. For mainstream products, consumers find more value in lower price points and ease of maintenance than in the quality of the materials, how well it handles, state of the art tech features, etc. The Traverse outsells the GL not because it is better, but because it is a vastly better value to a wider market.
Instances where the best product happens to be the best seller in their class are more common at much higher price points where costs are less of a concern to the consumer.
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 2:33 pm
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