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Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:21 am to LNCHBOX
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60's is still pretty old. I'd like to know how many people lumped into that giant range are at the upper end of it. Otherwise, it's kind of useless. Especially without an actual number attached to it.
that's called being objective when reading something.
Seems like all flu data is like this, which makes me lean towards the side of it being all about money.
Just tell me the truth, quit fudging numbers, let me draw my own conclusions from real data. Don't give me your hand picked data to scare me into taking the shot.
I agree little kids and senior citizens should get them, but there's just no reason for a healthy 5-50 year old to need a flu shot.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:22 am to LNCHBOX
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60's is still pretty old.
I can't wait until you youngins acquire this age and then tell the youngings they're full of shite.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:25 am to Homesick Tiger
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I can't wait until you youngins acquire this age and then tell the youngings they're full of shite.
I just turned 30 and feel old, so it won't be me
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:25 am to TeddyPadillac
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Why would a healthy 18-40 year old with no kids need a flu shot? They don't. But if they don't, someone misses out on some money.
Typically they probably don't, H1N1 is an exception to the normal rule. Even extending it out to 64 is typcially fine. That is why they have such a huge age gap in that research. Typically it goes after the very old and very young. H1N1 seems to hit that mid group harder. This is not an every year worry.
Look up Nancy Pinella if you want a specific average person it killed quickly. She is in the 40-50 age group.
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 9:26 am
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:27 am to TeddyPadillac
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but there's just no reason for a healthy 5-50 year old to need a flu shot.
Well if you are regularly around more vulnerable age groups(elderly and babies) you should get a flu shot so you don't get the flu and accidentally expose them to it.
Let me ask you this. Your newborn is sick in the NICU. Would you want their healthy 27 year old nurse to have had a flu shot or not?
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:28 am to lsunurse
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Let me ask you this. Your newborn is sick in the NICU. Would you want their healthy 27 year old nurse to have had a flu shot or not?
I would assume the nurse taking care of my child was not working while suffering from the flu.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:30 am to IceColdBeer
Exactly. I find it funny that the first to line up for their flu shot should probably be in line to get their cholesterol and BP taken before they should be worried about some other illness they may or may not even get.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:31 am to htran90
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My parents normally do, but they've been just busy with vietnamese new years
i think you mean the fRu.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:32 am to LNCHBOX
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I would assume the nurse taking care of my child was not working while suffering from the flu.
What if she didn't show symptoms until the very end of a shift or after her shift when she got home but actually had the flu the entire time and exposed everyone around her? That's how the flu spreads so much. You can be infectious and not be showing symptoms yet.
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 9:33 am
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:34 am to lsunurse
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Let me ask you this. Your newborn is sick in the NICU. Would you want their healthy 27 year old nurse to have had a flu shot or not?
Never said that.
If you are a person that deals with the under 5 or over 60 age group on a daily basis, you should get it as well, not only for your patients, but for yourself since you may be exposing yourself to it at a much higher rate than a normal person like myself would be exposed to it.
The odds of me being around someone with the actual flu is pretty slim. The odds of a nurse like yourself is most likely pretty common.
my 1 year old had to have surgery on his palette b/c of cleft lip/palette, and in recovery the nurse came in and you could tell didn't feel well and was sneezing and all. I told her, no offense, but you need to stop coming in the room and go home, and she agreed.
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 9:37 am
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:34 am to bayou choupique
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Only a moron doesn't get a flu shot.
The only year I had the flu was 2 weeks after I got the shot.
Exactly what happened to me. I haven't had a flu shot in 12 years because of it. I don't begrudge anybody who gets the shot though.
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 9:35 am
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:36 am to TeddyPadillac
I get the flu shot every year...even if it wasn't mandatory to keep my job I still would get it.
Never gotten the flu either...and I've cared for numerous patients with various strains of the flu before.
Never gotten the flu either...and I've cared for numerous patients with various strains of the flu before.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:38 am to lsunurse
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I get the flu shot every year...even if it wasn't mandatory to keep my job I still would get it.
It doesn't bother me at all that people get it. I personally chose not to.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:38 am to TeddyPadillac
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The odds of me being around someone with the actual flu is pretty slim.
What about grocery shopping? Or any public place where you are touching things? Church? The movies? The mall?
People snarf all over the place.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:43 am to bencoleman
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Only a moron doesn't get a flu shot.
If I ever got a flu shot growin up, I don't remember it. I never get sick so no use in fixin it if it ain't broken.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:49 am to Sir Drinksalot
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What about grocery shopping? Or any public place where you are touching things? Church? The movies? The mall?
People snarf all over the place.
I'm just as likely to die from bad food at the grocery store, a random bullet or electrocution at any public place touching things, don't go to church, choking on popcorn, heart attack, or random gunshot at the movies, and generally thuggery at the mall, which i don't go to.
This all goes back to showing me data on a healthy 30 year old that died from the flu.
It's probably 1 in a 100 million chance i die from the flu at my age, but i have no real data to go on.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:00 am to tigerpimpbot
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The only year I had the flu was 2 weeks after I got the shot.
Yeah you didn't get it from the shot. You either had some mild flu like side effects or you were going to get it anyway during that 2 week period from someone else who had the flu.
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 10:01 am
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:04 am to Dam Guide
If you get the flu from the vaccine then you had a shitty immune system to begin with, if you use the "I'm healthy I won't get it" angle.
So it's prob better to get the vaccine than not and get the real version of the flu?
So it's prob better to get the vaccine than not and get the real version of the flu?
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 10:05 am
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:07 am to Sir Drinksalot
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If you get the flu from the vaccine then you had a shitty immune system to begin with, if you use the "I'm healthy I won't get it" angle.
So it's prob better to get the vaccine than not and get the real version of the flu?
You aren't getting the flu from the shot. It's dead. It's either mild side effects, allergies, or they got it from someone else.
The nose spray has live flu, but it's been modified.
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 10:09 am
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