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re: Meet the guy who killed Osama Bin Laden: Rob O’Neill
Posted on 11/6/14 at 4:55 am to UL-SabanRival
Posted on 11/6/14 at 4:55 am to UL-SabanRival
quote:Supposed to be?
His identity is supposed to be classified.
One would think he was "supposed to be" financially taken care of by the government.
For example, 5 years service in Congress gains a pension. Now I know Congressional service is dangerous. Hell, members suffer horribly bruised egos all the time. I'm sure it is quite traumatic. But for the government to say to O'Neill, "Your service is literally worth nothing. It is worth no long term fiscal reward. It is worth no recompense at all, and you are not to profit from it after you depart the military," is incredible.
His identity is supposed to be classified?
Got it. Fair enough.
So when he seeks a job in the private sector, what's he supposed to say on his resumé? Who provides his recommendations? Look, I have zero problem with the guy's association with the Bin Laden mission being classified for his own safety. But I have a huge problem if he is not taken care of as compensation. Sounds like the Navy got tired of him, didn't find a spot for him, then just cut him loose after 16yrs in service.
If true, it's inexcusable behavior.
This post was edited on 11/6/14 at 4:57 am
Posted on 11/6/14 at 6:02 am to NC_Tigah
Wait I thought Obama killed Bin Laden?
Posted on 11/6/14 at 8:52 am to NC_Tigah
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So when he seeks a job in the private sector, what's he supposed to say on his resumé? Who provides his recommendations?
This is a non issue. He would have plenty of opportunities in the outside world. The sky is the limit for a lot of former SOF guys in a LOT of different sectors. Its not like he has no military record just because he worked for ST6. He can tell anyone he wants what unit he worked for, and he can disclose his unclassified training. As far as recommendations, that is taken care of as well. sof guys are not left out to dry assuming they leave in good standing.
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But for the government to say to O'Neill, "Your service is literally worth nothing. It is worth no long term fiscal reward. It is worth no recompense at all, and you are not to profit from it after you depart the military," is incredible.
If he does an honorable 20 then he gets compensation. Its the same for everyone else barring medical retirement. He deserves no pity. Sounds like a typical SEAL prima donna to me...
Some units have their people sign agreements about not disclosing the deets. They likely have that agreement and he likely broke it. If anything he just closed the door on a lot of private sector jobs in doing so. That was his choice and he made it knowing that he was leaving that unit not in good standing.
The navy has made their own bed with their never ending desire to advertise their successes and glorify their failures. If anything they should blame themselves here.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 11:24 am to NC_Tigah
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Supposed to be? One would think he was "supposed to be" financially taken care of by the government. For example, 5 years service in Congress gains a pension. Now I know Congressional service is dangerous. Hell, members suffer horribly bruised egos all the time. I'm sure it is quite traumatic. But for the government to say to O'Neill, "Your service is literally worth nothing. It is worth no long term fiscal reward. It is worth no recompense at all, and you are not to profit from it after you depart the military," is incredible. His identity is supposed to be classified? Got it. Fair enough. So when he seeks a job in the private sector, what's he supposed to say on his resumé? Who provides his recommendations? Look, I have zero problem with the guy's association with the Bin Laden mission being classified for his own safety. But I have a huge problem if he is not taken care of as compensation. Sounds like the Navy got tired of him, didn't find a spot for him, then just cut him loose after 16yrs in service. If true, it's inexcusable behavior.
well said
Posted on 11/6/14 at 11:32 am to NC_Tigah
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Sounds like the Navy got tired of him, didn't find a spot for him, then just cut him loose after 16yrs in service.
For the record, he admits he left of his own accord.
LINK
From a SOF community perspective (purely anectdotal), he was asked to leave because he was running his mouth about the mission and was told to stop (which he refused to do).
I have a feeling the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 2:03 pm to NC_Tigah
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Supposed to be?
Um, yeah, as in he wasn't supposed to reveal the nature of his work, but he did anyway. He left on his own terms, so your argument about the Navy cutting him loose is invalid.
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So when he seeks a job in the private sector, what's he supposed to say on his resumé? Who provides his recommendations?
He's allowed to say he was with SEAL. He just isn't allowed to discuss the details of missions like this. He can cite his practical experience and get recommendations from his superiors. He just can't say shite like "oh by the way, I also killed the Ukrainian ambassador with a fountain pen while he was taking a piss."
I agree that he should be treated better by the Navy, but he knew the policies before he quit. This is his decision, and the Navy's statement reflects this.
And he doesn't just say he was the guy who shot OBL. He has written about it in fairly great detail. This doesn't just endanger him personally. It endangers other service members as well as give people an idea of the tactics used, etc.
I'm sure he will make a lot of money from this, so good for him, but it's still a juvenile and irresponsible thing to do.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 2:59 pm to NC_Tigah
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5 years service in Congress gains a pension.
How is this relevant? He knew the rules when he joined. He should have stayed in 4 more years.
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Sounds like the Navy got tired of him, didn't find a spot for him, then just cut him loose after 16yrs in service.
Sounds like speculation.
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