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Posted on 11/3/14 at 2:54 pm to a want
Meanwhile, Rand Paul is making 7 campaign stops today - in Kentucky, with Mitch McConnell.
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Soon after Cruz was sworn in 22 months ago, he, Rand and Mike Lee quickly became the Senate version of The Three Musketeers. For about a year, they were attached at the hip.
About a year ago, on this board, I predicted that this triumvirate would disintegrate, with both Cruz and Paul having an eye on the 2016 nomination, and that would become a barrier for them. I said that Mike Lee would become a rag doll, with Cruz pulling him from one side and Paul from the other. Lee so far appears to be casting his lot with Cruz. Regardless of which guy eventually wins that tug-of-war, Cruz and Paul will continue to drift apart as long as both have presidential aspirations. As the months go along, whether the GOP wins the Senate tomorrow or not, both will envision different paths to success in 2016 and grow further and further apart. Lee, who is up for reelection in 2016, will think long and hard in the next six months about which guy he will attach his belt to. He's been leaning toward Cruz, but Lee is an intelligent man, and he knows his own future could be affected by his choice. Though his seat is a safe Republican seat from Utah, Lee only won his 2010 primary 51-49. If he goes with Cruz, and Cruz finds himself labeled a "troublemaker" nationally and is dismissed by most in the party during the primaries, Lee could very well be "primaried" in 2016 by a more moderate GOP candidate.
Throwing in his lot with Paul is a politically safer move. Keep an eye on Mike Lee in the next year to see which way the wind is blowing in the Cruz-Paul behind-the-scenes struggle to be the party's non-establishment favorite for the nomination.
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Soon after Cruz was sworn in 22 months ago, he, Rand and Mike Lee quickly became the Senate version of The Three Musketeers. For about a year, they were attached at the hip.
About a year ago, on this board, I predicted that this triumvirate would disintegrate, with both Cruz and Paul having an eye on the 2016 nomination, and that would become a barrier for them. I said that Mike Lee would become a rag doll, with Cruz pulling him from one side and Paul from the other. Lee so far appears to be casting his lot with Cruz. Regardless of which guy eventually wins that tug-of-war, Cruz and Paul will continue to drift apart as long as both have presidential aspirations. As the months go along, whether the GOP wins the Senate tomorrow or not, both will envision different paths to success in 2016 and grow further and further apart. Lee, who is up for reelection in 2016, will think long and hard in the next six months about which guy he will attach his belt to. He's been leaning toward Cruz, but Lee is an intelligent man, and he knows his own future could be affected by his choice. Though his seat is a safe Republican seat from Utah, Lee only won his 2010 primary 51-49. If he goes with Cruz, and Cruz finds himself labeled a "troublemaker" nationally and is dismissed by most in the party during the primaries, Lee could very well be "primaried" in 2016 by a more moderate GOP candidate.
Throwing in his lot with Paul is a politically safer move. Keep an eye on Mike Lee in the next year to see which way the wind is blowing in the Cruz-Paul behind-the-scenes struggle to be the party's non-establishment favorite for the nomination.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 3:00 pm to a want
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and shutting down the government
Just how did one U.S. senator shut down the government?? I realize democrats love to repeat their talking points (known as lies to decent folks), but at least you should have some shred of truth (conformity with fact or reality;) in the script.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 3:39 pm to a want
quote:Well, since it was his supporters that elected him and are supposed to be his guide while in office, what else would you expect him to do?
...except for Ted Cruz and his small group of supportors.
I live in Texas. Cruz was elected to do exactly what he has been doing. It's a credit to him, not a fault, that he has stuck to the promises he made to get elected.
Sheesh!
Posted on 11/3/14 at 3:48 pm to a want
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Everythying the republicans try to do in a pragmatic fashion over the next 2 years will not be conservativ-er-er-er enough for Cruz.
Cruz is out to make a name for himself. End of story.
He won't be able to pull his normal BS when republicans have a slim majority.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 3:53 pm to a want
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and shutting down the government (wasting billions) so he can raise his profile and generate campaign contributions for his 2016 run? Yeah, he's a real America-lover.
Cruz shut down the Government??? I didn't know that.
I'm no Vegas Bengal, but if Cruz shut down the government by himself, I'd be ghey for him.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 3:53 pm to a want
quote:Why we might not.
Why we'll all be dispointed over the next 2 years
Over the last two years, Paul has tuned his alliance with McConnell like a Stradivarius.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 3:54 pm to a want
It will be nothing compared to my disappointment the last 6 years.
And if he sticks it to Mitch every day good for him.
And if he sticks it to Mitch every day good for him.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 3:57 pm to ljhog
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One of the reasons I voted for him. And I continue to support him because I believe in liberty and freedom as unrestricted as possible.
he remains one of my favorite votes i've ever cast and has not let me down the least in regards to his campaign promises.
to anybody that says "he shut down the governemnt and wasted billions" i submit, "no, he tried to stop stupidity and spending and unfortunately cost billions to try and save the country trillions,"
This post was edited on 11/3/14 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 11/3/14 at 4:01 pm to NHTIGER
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Throwing in his lot with Paul is a politically safer move. Keep an eye on Mike Lee in the next year to see which way the wind is blowing in the Cruz-Paul behind-the-scenes struggle to be the party's non-establishment favorite for the nomination.
this.
Cruz has no shot in a general election. He is just not particularly center enough for america, or at least to credibly lie about how he is center.
Paul does have a shot at a generational shift in politics, he could unite fiscal conservatives, civil libertarians, young voters and even some older voters.
If cruz dictates the agenda, this actually plays really well for paul in the 2016 nomination IMHO. Paul can come out with reasonable legislation to have it shot down by cruz, he can claim the mantle of reason.
And block cruz out of early primary wins.
Or maybe something else happens but its pretty clear Paul and Cruz will shape the next 2 years in the senate.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 5:24 pm to Antonio Moss
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If the GOP takes all of Congress and not a single law is made in the next two years, I'll be ecstatic.
You must not have a bank account.
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