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ASOIAF: Your predictions for book 6? Paging all Maesters.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 10/20/14 at 7:01 pm
What are some of the obvious and not so obvious that you think will happen? And what story line are you most excited about?
1. Bran eventually becomes the most powerful being that has ever lived. He has basically become his own entity. In all of history a tree has never talked and bran has already spoken through one at his age. Possibly playing the biggest role in the battle of good and evil in the end.
2. So the mountain is definitely going to have some supernatural/dead but alive/weird transformation thing going on. GoT/HBO even set that one up. Side note: I hate Qyburn.
3. When I started typing this thread I had like two more things I thought were obvious but I've already forgot.
As far as excitement, Arya's story line is still on top for me. It has been from day one actually. The only time I've cried reading the book (don't hate) was when she asked if her next face was going to be another ugly one and he was like "no, it will be a pretty one, just like yours." Man that was awesome.
Theon should be pretty good too. It was another good quote to end that, when he mentions a man has to have a name. So he's broken away from being Reek finally and is a Greyjoy again.
Also, I need more Pate. He melts, you don't hear from him in 4 books and then, boom, he's back. I guess it's somebody pretending to be him?
Finally, wtf GRR Martin, give me book 6 already like you said you would.
1. Bran eventually becomes the most powerful being that has ever lived. He has basically become his own entity. In all of history a tree has never talked and bran has already spoken through one at his age. Possibly playing the biggest role in the battle of good and evil in the end.
2. So the mountain is definitely going to have some supernatural/dead but alive/weird transformation thing going on. GoT/HBO even set that one up. Side note: I hate Qyburn.
3. When I started typing this thread I had like two more things I thought were obvious but I've already forgot.
As far as excitement, Arya's story line is still on top for me. It has been from day one actually. The only time I've cried reading the book (don't hate) was when she asked if her next face was going to be another ugly one and he was like "no, it will be a pretty one, just like yours." Man that was awesome.
Theon should be pretty good too. It was another good quote to end that, when he mentions a man has to have a name. So he's broken away from being Reek finally and is a Greyjoy again.
Also, I need more Pate. He melts, you don't hear from him in 4 books and then, boom, he's back. I guess it's somebody pretending to be him?
Finally, wtf GRR Martin, give me book 6 already like you said you would.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 7:10 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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. Bran
Is the most important character in the series. He was the start and will be the finish.
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Arya's story line is still on top for me. It has been from day one actually
Me too. A warging, faceless assassin is so badass.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 7:10 pm to iwyLSUiwy
quote:Arya's story is top for me. I cannot wait to see where she goes and who she ends up killing.
As far as excitement, Arya's story line is still on top for me. It has been from day one actually. The only time I've cried reading the book (don't hate) was when she asked if her next face was going to be another ugly one and he was like "no, it will be a pretty one, just like yours." Man that was awesome.
This post was edited on 10/20/14 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 10/20/14 at 7:33 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Also, I need more Pate. He melts, you don't hear from him in 4 books and then, boom, he's back. I guess it's somebody pretending to be him?
Pate is widely considered to be Jaqen H'ghar. Or rather, Jaqen kills Pate in the AFFC prologue and disguises himself as Pate at the end.
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Bran eventually becomes the most powerful being that has ever lived.
Something like that. People say Bran's storyline is boring and I highly disagree. It's just a very late bloomer. Him and Jaime Lannister will have some kind of connection/meeting/whatever before the end.
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So the mountain is definitely going to have some supernatural/dead but alive/weird transformation thing going on.
I have a feeling that Robert Strong's identity as zombie Gregor will be revealed in front of the Faith. This will seal Cersei's fate. I would be shocked if Cersei survives the end of the series.
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As far as excitement, Arya's story line is still on top for me.
Another character who I would shocked if she survives at the end. Killing Raff the Sweetling is a big indicator for that, IMO
Posted on 10/20/14 at 8:19 pm to iwyLSUiwy
I think Arya might somehow have to fall out with the faceless men. She can'tstay with them and keep her identity and overall character.
She's my favorite storyline as well.
She's my favorite storyline as well.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 8:40 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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2. So the mountain is definitely going to have some supernatural/dead but alive/weird transformation thing going on. GoT/HBO even set that one up. Side note: I hate Qyburn.
He's already around in book 5
Posted on 10/20/14 at 8:42 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Also, I need more Pate. He melts, you don't hear from him in 4 books and then, boom, he's back. I guess it's somebody pretending to be him?
Yes, it is a faceless man, likely Jaqen
Posted on 10/20/14 at 8:46 pm to iwyLSUiwy
This will be a long post, but I'll dissect what I think will happen by arcs:
Cersei/Jaime
Cersei will win her trial with Ser Robert Strong, but Margeary will lose her trial with the Faith. Cersei "convinces" the High Septon to keep her alive and in the crown's custody to pay for her sins, and the High Septon "agrees". Cersei then demands that Mace Tyrell leaves the city and attacks Storm's End to put this new usurper in his place. She also sends out a large amount of Lannister men to bring back Jaime and kill Brienne.
Jaime and Brienne somehow manage to escape Stoneheart, and Jaime will hear of Aegon's return and Myrcella's death. They will have been tracked down at this point by the men Cersei sent after them. Jaime will survive, but Brienne will be mortally wounded and die. Jaime will then march towards Storm's End and pledge fealty to Aegon. Aegon is pressured by some of his advisors to execute Jaime for killing his grandfather, but Jaime will promise him that he could bring in the Westerlands without issue and also that Tommen is his own son. He begs for Aegon to spare Tommen's life and legitimize him as a Lannister and Lord of Casterly Rock, and to do so in order to avoid doing what Jaime's father did in butchering children. Aegon agrees.
Aegon's army eventually arrives at the gates of King's Landing, and Varys is able to sneak out all the prisoners and hostages that Cersei holds, with the exception of Tommen, who Varys claims is being directly guarded by Ser Robert Strong at all times. Jaime realizes that he must enter the Red Keep and save Tommen himself. He follows Varys into the bowels of the Red Keep, and Varys taunts him about history repeating itself, and that Cersei has rigged the whole city to blow in case Aegon were to take the city.
The Tyrell guards open up the city gates for Aegon, and the Faith Militant joins in as well. Cersei takes Tommen with her and orders Qyburn to burn the city down. Jaime kills Qyburn on his way to rescue Tommen. Cersei then poisons Tommen on the Iron Throne. The second Tommen dies, Jaime walks in and sees him lying there. Cersei is completely mad and overjoyed to see him, thinking that they'll die together. Jaime instead asks Cersei if she knows why he actually killed Aerys. Cersei is confused and says for the sake of the family, but Jaime then goes into detail on why he actually killed him. Slowly but surely Cersei will realize that Jaime is there to kill her and that she has turned into Aerys. Jaime will then tell Cersei that he secured Tommen's survival and that Tommen would have inherited the Rock and their legacy, and then proceeds to strangle her.
Varys then has Jaime arrested for kinslaying, and plans to have him executed. Jon Connington then enters the city, and despite loathing Jaime, felt Varys had double crossed Jaime as well. Connington then assumes his position as Hand of the King, and Samwell (more on him later) comes in and says they have an urgent message from the Wall. The Others have broken through the Wall and need every single man to save the kingdom. Connington has been suspicious of Varys throughout the book, and Jon Snow's first name makes a light bulb go off in Connington's head: Jon is Rhaegar's son. He tells Sam to release Jaime Lannister from his cell and flee north with utmost hast, since no one could be trusted with this information. Connington musters the strength to visit Varys and kill him, but it turns out that Varys had already poisoned him and planned on framing Sam. Varys taunts him in death telling him that he played him his entire life, and the Blackfyres had now taken the throne fully, and that he would kill the two remaining Targaryens. Connington then dies thinking that he failed Rhaegar and think that Jon Snow's name was the hint to him that he was the true heir he needed to protect.
Dany/Tyrion
The Battle of Meereen will commence, Barristan will nearly be killed in battle by Victarion, but Viscerion will narrowly save Barristan from certain death. Dany will come in with a whole Khal behind her. Tyrion will be able to meet with her once she gets back in Meereen, and is furious to see that Jorah and Brown Ben are the people with Tyrion, who she'll also despise instantly. He'll quickly call her out on her bullshite, all of which Barristan identifies as unfortunately true. Dany will want to execute all 3 of them, but Barristan will tell her what they say is true and that she can not afford to execute Tyrion, because of his knowledge and the fact that he can train her dragons for her.
Tyrion is able to make quick work of the dragons, and they depart for Westeros. Once they leave the Gulf of Grief, they are greeted by the Navy of Qarth and New Ghis, who wipe out half of Dany's ships. One of the captains of the ships taunts Dany and Tyrion and says that hundreds of ships are on their way from the Free Cities as well as reinforcements from New Ghis and Qarth, and that they'll wipe them out regardless. They will think that they're certainly doomed, but Tyrion says that in order to live, their only shot is sailing through Valyria, since the other ships will sail around the peninsula instead of through it, and they'll miss the entire force. The crewmen are scared shitless, but Dany agrees that that is their only chance at survival.
They arrive in Old Valyria and stop. Tyrion is able to find Brightroar, and Dany discovers some ancient secret about dragons, the Doom of Valyria, and her destiny. Suddenly some dark forces attack, and Dany loses several ships in the process, as well as Barristan who sacrifices himself for her. They make it through Valyria, and sail to Westeros completely unopposed.
When they arrive on Dragonstone, they find out that the small folk are scared shitless of her and are doing everything in their power to keep her and her dragons away from the mainland. With Aegon victorious, and the North looking like it's on the up (more on that next), they think Dany is Aerys and Cersei come again. They will then receive a raven from Jon Snow to Dragonstone warning them of the Others and to bring all the troops they can. Tyrion tells Dany there is no hope for them to outright conquer Westeros even with her 3 dragons, but that they can save the realm and win the loyalty of the people through that, since he's sure both Littlefinger and Varys will do nothing to save the realm. Dany decides that's the only logical choice, and begins drawing up plans to defeat the Others.
Cersei/Jaime
Cersei will win her trial with Ser Robert Strong, but Margeary will lose her trial with the Faith. Cersei "convinces" the High Septon to keep her alive and in the crown's custody to pay for her sins, and the High Septon "agrees". Cersei then demands that Mace Tyrell leaves the city and attacks Storm's End to put this new usurper in his place. She also sends out a large amount of Lannister men to bring back Jaime and kill Brienne.
Jaime and Brienne somehow manage to escape Stoneheart, and Jaime will hear of Aegon's return and Myrcella's death. They will have been tracked down at this point by the men Cersei sent after them. Jaime will survive, but Brienne will be mortally wounded and die. Jaime will then march towards Storm's End and pledge fealty to Aegon. Aegon is pressured by some of his advisors to execute Jaime for killing his grandfather, but Jaime will promise him that he could bring in the Westerlands without issue and also that Tommen is his own son. He begs for Aegon to spare Tommen's life and legitimize him as a Lannister and Lord of Casterly Rock, and to do so in order to avoid doing what Jaime's father did in butchering children. Aegon agrees.
Aegon's army eventually arrives at the gates of King's Landing, and Varys is able to sneak out all the prisoners and hostages that Cersei holds, with the exception of Tommen, who Varys claims is being directly guarded by Ser Robert Strong at all times. Jaime realizes that he must enter the Red Keep and save Tommen himself. He follows Varys into the bowels of the Red Keep, and Varys taunts him about history repeating itself, and that Cersei has rigged the whole city to blow in case Aegon were to take the city.
The Tyrell guards open up the city gates for Aegon, and the Faith Militant joins in as well. Cersei takes Tommen with her and orders Qyburn to burn the city down. Jaime kills Qyburn on his way to rescue Tommen. Cersei then poisons Tommen on the Iron Throne. The second Tommen dies, Jaime walks in and sees him lying there. Cersei is completely mad and overjoyed to see him, thinking that they'll die together. Jaime instead asks Cersei if she knows why he actually killed Aerys. Cersei is confused and says for the sake of the family, but Jaime then goes into detail on why he actually killed him. Slowly but surely Cersei will realize that Jaime is there to kill her and that she has turned into Aerys. Jaime will then tell Cersei that he secured Tommen's survival and that Tommen would have inherited the Rock and their legacy, and then proceeds to strangle her.
Varys then has Jaime arrested for kinslaying, and plans to have him executed. Jon Connington then enters the city, and despite loathing Jaime, felt Varys had double crossed Jaime as well. Connington then assumes his position as Hand of the King, and Samwell (more on him later) comes in and says they have an urgent message from the Wall. The Others have broken through the Wall and need every single man to save the kingdom. Connington has been suspicious of Varys throughout the book, and Jon Snow's first name makes a light bulb go off in Connington's head: Jon is Rhaegar's son. He tells Sam to release Jaime Lannister from his cell and flee north with utmost hast, since no one could be trusted with this information. Connington musters the strength to visit Varys and kill him, but it turns out that Varys had already poisoned him and planned on framing Sam. Varys taunts him in death telling him that he played him his entire life, and the Blackfyres had now taken the throne fully, and that he would kill the two remaining Targaryens. Connington then dies thinking that he failed Rhaegar and think that Jon Snow's name was the hint to him that he was the true heir he needed to protect.
Dany/Tyrion
The Battle of Meereen will commence, Barristan will nearly be killed in battle by Victarion, but Viscerion will narrowly save Barristan from certain death. Dany will come in with a whole Khal behind her. Tyrion will be able to meet with her once she gets back in Meereen, and is furious to see that Jorah and Brown Ben are the people with Tyrion, who she'll also despise instantly. He'll quickly call her out on her bullshite, all of which Barristan identifies as unfortunately true. Dany will want to execute all 3 of them, but Barristan will tell her what they say is true and that she can not afford to execute Tyrion, because of his knowledge and the fact that he can train her dragons for her.
Tyrion is able to make quick work of the dragons, and they depart for Westeros. Once they leave the Gulf of Grief, they are greeted by the Navy of Qarth and New Ghis, who wipe out half of Dany's ships. One of the captains of the ships taunts Dany and Tyrion and says that hundreds of ships are on their way from the Free Cities as well as reinforcements from New Ghis and Qarth, and that they'll wipe them out regardless. They will think that they're certainly doomed, but Tyrion says that in order to live, their only shot is sailing through Valyria, since the other ships will sail around the peninsula instead of through it, and they'll miss the entire force. The crewmen are scared shitless, but Dany agrees that that is their only chance at survival.
They arrive in Old Valyria and stop. Tyrion is able to find Brightroar, and Dany discovers some ancient secret about dragons, the Doom of Valyria, and her destiny. Suddenly some dark forces attack, and Dany loses several ships in the process, as well as Barristan who sacrifices himself for her. They make it through Valyria, and sail to Westeros completely unopposed.
When they arrive on Dragonstone, they find out that the small folk are scared shitless of her and are doing everything in their power to keep her and her dragons away from the mainland. With Aegon victorious, and the North looking like it's on the up (more on that next), they think Dany is Aerys and Cersei come again. They will then receive a raven from Jon Snow to Dragonstone warning them of the Others and to bring all the troops they can. Tyrion tells Dany there is no hope for them to outright conquer Westeros even with her 3 dragons, but that they can save the realm and win the loyalty of the people through that, since he's sure both Littlefinger and Varys will do nothing to save the realm. Dany decides that's the only logical choice, and begins drawing up plans to defeat the Others.
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 10:40 am
Posted on 10/20/14 at 11:43 pm to iwyLSUiwy
The only prediction I'm comfortable making is that it'll be another 5 years before the book comes out.
Who knows what GRRM will decide to do with the series. At this points I feel like he just does things for shits and gigs
Who knows what GRRM will decide to do with the series. At this points I feel like he just does things for shits and gigs
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:50 am to iwyLSUiwy
nope, not getting sucked into this thread
not until the new season comes out...
nope nope nope
not until the new season comes out...
nope nope nope
Posted on 10/21/14 at 8:43 pm to iwyLSUiwy
Benjen = Daario = Euron will be confirmed
Benjaarion, Dany, and Jon Snoo to ride dragons and battle the Others
Benjaarion, Dany, and Jon Snoo to ride dragons and battle the Others
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