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Posted on 10/17/14 at 12:58 pm
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 12:58 pm
Are there any requirements of parents who wish to opt out of compulsory attendance laws and home school their children?

I'm all for home schooling but I thought there must be some standards met.

We had a disturbing case in North Bossier. When the boy was 6 his teacher noticed he'd come to school with a black eye. Child protection services were contacted. After a visit the parents decided to pull the kid out of school and home school him.

Today he is 11. They beat the hell out of him one too many times and he ran away a couple of days ago. Cops found him yesterday and he was pretty beat up. The parents were arrested.

My questions:

1. Why would parents be allowed to opt for home schooling right after a child abuse charge? Wouldn't that raise a red flag?

2. Absent the abuse charge what if a parent is functionally illiterate? Can they still get the OK to home school?
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:04 pm to
i think homeschooling is a red herring here. they could beat the hell out of him any time.

if the argument is, traditional school gives the opportunity to discover child abuse, then so be it. but that's nanny state bullshite and if that's the case, then homeschooling shouldn't be allowed at all, or at least would require regular visits from some social worker, which is also bullshite.

Posted by Zach
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:07 pm to
It just doesn't seem that complicated to me. Mr. and Mrs. John Doe apply for home schooling. You send a guidance counselor to pay a visit to their home.

The counselor sees that the Does are mouth breathing idiots that cannot construct a coherent sentence and their child seems deathly afraid of them. So, they get rejected.

No need for constant monitoring or testing. Just one initial visit to make sure something nefarious is not afoot.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

After a visit the parents decided to pull the kid out of school and home school him.



Are we really expected to believe that the child was being "home schooled" ?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:09 pm to
This happens all the time.

If it's not homeschooling, the parents just pick up and move to a new district and start over. Social services suck.
Posted by TigerTattle
Out of Town
Member since Sep 2007
6631 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:14 pm to
You made me curious, so ...

LINK

Just a quick scan, but I didn't see anything about screening parents prior to being approved or any specific qualifications the parents must have. They can apply to homeschool online.

They do have to submit verification that the child is progressing in order to get renewed the next year, though.
Posted by Qwerty
Member since Dec 2010
2114 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:25 pm to
It varies from state to state. Some require yearly testing or portfolio review and some don't. I don't think Louisiana does, but my state does for my home schooled kids. We go to a certified teacher's house for progress evaluation yearly. We will do some standardized testing as well so my kids are exposed to this.

I don't particularly like the idea of a government worker coming to my home to decide whether we are fit to homeschool our kids.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

I don't particularly like the idea of a government worker coming to my home to decide whether we are fit to homeschool our kids.

Awful idea. When the public school teachers will let the parents visit them in their homes to determine if they're suitable teachers, then we can talk about this idea.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:31 pm to
If I wanted to home school I would much prefer the 1 time home visit and then leave me alone as opposed to yearly monitoring.
Posted by Qwerty
Member since Dec 2010
2114 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:33 pm to
The yearly monitoring is annoying depending on who does the review. One year had a teacher who used the public school curriculum and kept pointing out where ours differed. I know it is different. That is one of the reasons we are homeschooling. This past year we had one familiar with the materials we were using, and it was actually a helpful experience.

I am still annoyed though because the assumption is a certified public school teacher is more qualified to teach my children, or at least we need their approval.
This post was edited on 10/17/14 at 1:35 pm
Posted by Qwerty
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:36 pm to
Upvote
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:02 pm to
Parents should not need government approval to home school. The GED exam is enough.Parents will abuse their kids regardless.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112769 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

Parents should not need government approval to home school. The GED exam is enough.Parents will abuse their kids regardless.


That's illogical. If a parent is a nut case he/she wants the child to have as little contact with the outside world as possible. That prevents detection.

I just found a copy of the story from today:

local abc

He was 'never registered' as home schooled. So, why isn't that truancy? Is truancy still against the law?
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:20 pm to
Its not illogical. You want to add another area for the government to interfere with homeschooling to help prevent rare occurances that will happen to some extent regardless. You just posted about a kid who wasn't even registered as a homeschooler. What good would your invasive suggestion do then?

Liberals already are looking for ways to do away with homeschooling, and you want to give the govt say in who can and cannot? Kindly frick off.
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:23 pm to
My parents homeschooled me for one year. I did absolutely nothing.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
12049 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:26 pm to
That is only your and your parents' problem, and totally not illustrative of the homeschooling community at large.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:27 pm to
Your parents sound shitty.

No offense.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
12049 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:27 pm to
This has NOTHING to do with homeschooling and everything to do with a completely dysfunctional family with serious interpersonal and child abuse problems. The attempt to link homeschooling and child abuse is getting old and stale.
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

That is only your and your parents' problem, and totally not illustrative of the homeschooling community at large.
Oh, I know. I'm just saying it's possible to "home school" and not actually be doing anything.
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