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Superman Was Too Powerful to be Interesting in Man of Steel
Posted on 10/15/14 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 10/15/14 at 7:19 pm
Reading the DC/Marvel threads and thinking about the upcoming movies, I wanted to get this off of my chest.
In Man of Steel, they made Superman WAY too powerful. He was not like that in the original comics or TV show with George Reeves (he would punch criminals and they would just fall down) or even in the Christopher Reeve movies (when a bus was thrown on him you really wondered if he was ok).
After Superman essentially destroyed Metropolis in the fight with Zod by being thrown into buildings and wrecking them, it is as though they made him TOO strong. How is he going to face off against Batman? Against anyone?
They overdid it with the special effects and I am really not interested in someone having a pocket full of kryptonite to neutralize him.
How do you make the new Superman even remotely interesting now?
In Man of Steel, they made Superman WAY too powerful. He was not like that in the original comics or TV show with George Reeves (he would punch criminals and they would just fall down) or even in the Christopher Reeve movies (when a bus was thrown on him you really wondered if he was ok).
After Superman essentially destroyed Metropolis in the fight with Zod by being thrown into buildings and wrecking them, it is as though they made him TOO strong. How is he going to face off against Batman? Against anyone?
They overdid it with the special effects and I am really not interested in someone having a pocket full of kryptonite to neutralize him.
How do you make the new Superman even remotely interesting now?
Posted on 10/15/14 at 7:22 pm to AlaTiger
Yawn.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 7:35 pm to AlaTiger
It was pretty entertaining to me. I guess I just don't get the Man of Steel hate.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 7:37 pm to AlaTiger
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In Man of Steel, they made Superman WAY too powerful. He was not like that in the original comics or TV show with George Reeves (he would punch criminals and they would just fall down) or even in the Christopher Reeve movies (when a bus was thrown on him you really wondered if he was ok).
God forbid someone has a new take on a character that isn't the same as EVERY other version made
Posted on 10/15/14 at 7:38 pm to AlaTiger
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Superman Was Too Powerful to be Interesting in Man of Steel
It wasn't that he was too powerful, it's that the level of power and the tone of the fights did not reflect the intended tone.
His level of power would have been fine.....in an Avengers film or something similar. But by making him so powerful, and the film so seemingly grounded, you get something incongruent in product. It made no sense, it was almost disorienting.
Add to the fact that the level of damage was never given a second thought, and the "Reality," of the film becomes broken.
Like I said, the film tries to be far too serious, therefore the impact of the "superheroic" moments fall flat.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 7:44 pm to AlaTiger
The movie sucked for several reasons, him being overpowered was not one of them. He should be way stronger than regular humans. Zod was an even match for him.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:08 pm to AlaTiger
Nb4 sentrius long arse reddit repost
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:32 pm to AlaTiger
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AlaTiger
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They overdid it with the special effects and I am really not interested in someone having a pocket full of kryptonite to neutralize him.
You think a weakness of a superhero can only be of the physical nature?
Posted on 10/15/14 at 9:16 pm to AlaTiger
The depowered Superman. he was more powerful in the Reeve Versions. And Thor was underpowered, he should killed Iron man in Avengers.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 9:16 pm to AlaTiger
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Superman Was Too Powerful to be Interesting in Man of Steel
That is a complete paradox. By far, the most interesting character is one that is utterly invincible and all powerful. That is precisely why Superman is my favorite character and Batman among my least favorites. I want the superhero to be a god among men. I never understood wanting the hero to have flaws. The hero should be without any flaws because it should be something we all aspire to.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 10:39 pm to AlaTiger
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In Man of Steel, they made Superman WAY too powerful. He was not like that in the original comics or TV show with George Reeves (he would punch criminals and they would just fall down) or even in the Christopher Reeve movies (when a bus was thrown on him you really wondered if he was ok).
The character has evolved over time. After all, he started out simply being, "Faster than a speeding bullet! More powerful than a locomotive! Able to leap tall buildings at a single bound!"
That's a Superman that can't fly. He can jump really high though! Anyone want to see a movie where Superman can't fly?
No...Supes has evolved over time, and the power we saw ion screen this last outing is EXACTLY what it would look like to have someone with what we now see as his powers tear assing through a city. In fact...we've already seen it a full decade before Mos in the Justice League cartoon.
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Hell...they basically took the fight with Captain Marvel, put Zod in his place and went nuts. They even tossed in Superman being tossed into a bank vault in an early fight because it looked so cool in this one!
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Supes gives zero fricks as his needlessly punches Darkseid through buildings...presumably with people inside of them and then proceeded to fly punch him...exactly like he did to Zod in MoS.
A debate can be had about how the over the top level of destruction did not fit the serious tone of the movie, or how because of it's level of groundedness it's now hard to image a universe where a rich guy with lots of toys who can beat yup street thugs can somehow be valuable in any real sense to what will amount to gods in the Justice League...but there really is no reason to complain that, in general, Superman was too powerful.
He's Superman.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:40 pm to AlaTiger
I am of the opinion that Man of Steel was the first Superman movie to get it right. Kryptonians are basically immortal gods on earth, so when they fight, they break stuff.
Otherwise, I agree that Superman is a boring hero because he is invincible to everything but kryptonite and certain magics (Smallville).
Otherwise, I agree that Superman is a boring hero because he is invincible to everything but kryptonite and certain magics (Smallville).
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