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West Africa travel bans.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 7:33 am
Posted on 10/15/14 at 7:33 am
Why is the administration so adverse to this idea?
Seems like a common sense way to contain the Ebola outbreak, no?
Seems like a common sense way to contain the Ebola outbreak, no?
Posted on 10/15/14 at 7:34 am to GumboPot
been arguing with people on the OT about this
I don't think it will do anything unless the entire world institutes travel bans
I don't think it will do anything unless the entire world institutes travel bans
Posted on 10/15/14 at 7:35 am to GumboPot
yes. travel bans badly needed
Posted on 10/15/14 at 7:35 am to GumboPot
did you just really use the words "common sense" and "this administration" in the same sentence? You know that isn't allowed, off with his head!
Posted on 10/15/14 at 7:37 am to GumboPot
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Seems like a common sense way to contain the Ebola outbreak, no?
If you don't want to get infected but someone right outside your home is infected and they want to come in your home, you don't let them in.
A travel ban would probably only delay the disease spreading to here, but a delay is better than nothing. It at least gives us time to work on more cures, stockpile more medicines and perfect hospital contingencies.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 7:39 am to Bard
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If you don't want to get infected but someone right outside your home is infected and they want to come in your home, you don't let them in.
This is great advice for hermits and bed-ridden people everywhere
Posted on 10/15/14 at 7:41 am to Pilot Tiger
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I don't think it will do anything unless the entire world institutes travel bans
A travel ban is probably overkill, but it would shut down risk in the US.
Travel ban: Visit Liberia, fine.
You're simply restricted from return to the US for 21 days after departing Liberia.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 7:43 am to jamboybarry
African Dictators have restricted travel but our Dictator won't. Aren't liberals so cool
Posted on 10/15/14 at 7:44 am to Bard
How about using Guantanamo as a sequestration/screening area for all direct and connection flights out of Africa? The cost would be born by the travelers.
That should slow the spread of Ebola by a lot.
That should slow the spread of Ebola by a lot.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 7:48 am to jamboybarry
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This is great advice for hermits and bed-ridden people everywhere
It's also common sense. The best way to avoid infection is to lessen the chance of exposure and the best path for that is to not allow people from the heavily infected areas into the country in the first place.
We're currently looking at a 70-ish% mortality rate and the CDC is projecting over a million people in West Africa will be infected by the end of the year.
Other than qualified medical personnel, there should be no travel into nor out of West Africa from the US. And even then those individuals need to be extensively tested and quarantined for 48 hours before allowed into the general populace. We need to get a handle on this before it gets any worse (and it can get worse), allowing more freedom of travel from the heavily infected areas is the exact opposite of that.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 7:51 am to GumboPot
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How about using Guantanamo as a sequestration/screening area for all direct and connection flights out of Africa?
I don't think Gitmo is equipped to handle that kind of traffic. At the very least I think the Cubans would throw a hissy.
Limiting the amount of people able to travel back and forth makes managing those that do easier. With that, sequestration/screening areas could be put up at any international airport that is designated to accept these flights.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:01 am to tigerfootball10
quote:Isn't ours an African dictator also? Amirite???
African Dictators have restricted travel but our Dictator won't.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:02 am to Bard
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With that, sequestration/screening areas could be put up at any international airport that is designated to accept these flights.
I'm all for this.
To be more precise we are talking about tighter travel restrictions, not travel bans.
We need tighter travel restriction until we determine how contagious Ebola really is and how better to prevent its spread. Because, evidence by the infections in Dallas we still have much to learn about the disease.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 10:08 am to GumboPot
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To be more precise we are talking about tighter travel restrictions, not travel bans.
Agreed. By "travel ban" I (and many others, I believe) mean "ban of any travel by non-medical personnel and/or for non-medical purposes" to and from those areas.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 10:19 am to coolpapaboze
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Isn't ours an African dictator also? Amirite???
Well played
Posted on 10/15/14 at 10:31 am to GumboPot
because they're frickin STUPID! That shite gets to Washington watch what happens.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 10:35 am to ole man
Why hasn't Mitch McConnell and John Boehner called for travel bans? Aren't they the highest ranking Republicans in the country?
Posted on 10/15/14 at 10:37 am to GumboPot
a travel ban isn't going to do much.
first off, most flights to africa especially smaller countries like liberia go through other countries.
second off, if you are in african and can afford to travel internationally, you can probably pass through a place without a travel ban
third, its pretty common for african nationals to have two passports, at least the ones that can afford to travel internationally.
I mean, go ahead and do it but it won't do shite IMHO.
first off, most flights to africa especially smaller countries like liberia go through other countries.
second off, if you are in african and can afford to travel internationally, you can probably pass through a place without a travel ban
third, its pretty common for african nationals to have two passports, at least the ones that can afford to travel internationally.
I mean, go ahead and do it but it won't do shite IMHO.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 10:51 am to Hawkeye95
quote:The ban is not on flights, it's on people. A Liberian stamp on your passport within the last 21 days would register as a no-go in terms of travel to the US. You could travel through any intermediate countries you wanted. Would not affect the travel ban.
a travel ban isn't going to do much.
first off, most flights to africa especially smaller countries like liberia go through other countries.
second off, if you are in african and can afford to travel internationally, you can probably pass through a place without a travel ban
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