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re: Plant Workers - What is the White Mountain on Hwy 30 @ Hwy 3115?

Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:45 am to
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:45 am to
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How are people exposed to the radiation from phosphogypsum stacks if they don’t go near them? Veiw across the top of a phosphogypsum stack Radionuclides that are small particles (i.e., radionuclide dust) can become airborne as wind-blown dust or as dust thrown up into the air by cars and trucks. The radionuclides, uranium and radium-226, are present in the phosphogypsum and can become airborne. Once these radionuclides are in the air, people and animals can breathe them and they can settle out onto ponds and agricultural areas. Radon-222, a decay product of radium-226, is a gas and so may become airborne by diffusing into the air. EPA has determined, however, that the risks associated with stacking phosphogypsum are in line with acceptable risk practices.


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Posted by CurDog
Member since Jan 2007
28083 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:46 am to
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do you speak proper English?

on occasion, this was not one of those occasions
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:48 am to
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
21946 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:56 am to
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making HF

Jeez, that makes me cringe.
Posted by Scrowe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2010
2926 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:00 am to
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fluorogypsum part of it is a byproduct of making HF at Honeywell, some of it is from PCS I think from their ammonia plant


Correct answer.

And it's only getting bigger, they got approved to double the height of the "mountain".

It's slightly radioactive and they've found zero use for it but are constantly researching to find something to do with it because as you can tell if they find something for it they will be sitting on a goldmine of waste to riches.
Posted by Dcook2
Watson
Member since Mar 2014
138 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 12:31 pm to
Phosphogypsum, It's a by product of a chemicaal made at PCS. It has nothing to do with the process of makin HF. Honeywell has no involvement. If you go to the other end of 3115 you can see what it starts as.
This post was edited on 10/14/14 at 12:40 pm
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 12:34 pm to
so in other words thats sort of a landfill?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135222 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 12:35 pm to
Is it used to neutralize acids of some kind?
Posted by Scrowe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2010
2926 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 12:37 pm to
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so in other words thats sort of a landfill?


Yep
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73729 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 12:37 pm to
Byproduct doesn't mean landfill.

btw, the Honeywell site is the largest HF producer in the world. At least I think it still is, would have recently been replaced if so.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73729 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 12:38 pm to
I think they tried to pave some roads in AP with it a couple decades back. Results must not have been good.
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 12:38 pm to
It's the Titty Mountain Highway!

Titty Mountain Highway
Posted by Scrowe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2010
2926 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 2:51 pm to
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Byproduct doesn't mean landfill.


Then what do you call a land mass to pile up radioactive waste? They have zero use for it, it's just like garbage until they find something to do with it.
This post was edited on 10/14/14 at 2:53 pm
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:11 pm to
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I think they tried to pave some roads in AP with it a couple decades back. Results must not have been good.


I thought the EPA stepped in and nixed the idea due to the radioactivity. I could be wrong though.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67297 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:47 pm to
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I thought the EPA stepped in and nixed the idea due to the radioactivity.


This. They were worried about contaminated storm water runoff. Yep, no contaminated storm water runoff coming from A GIANT F#$KING MOUNTAIN OF IT!!!!
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61442 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:50 pm to
I'm sure it's in a lined and contained diked area
Posted by redbullwings
Member since Aug 2013
868 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:07 pm to
LINK Seams as though they have found many uses.
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
16311 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:10 pm to
They're called gyp-stacks. It's a by product of making fertilizer.
Posted by Scrowe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2010
2926 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:14 pm to
It's phosphogypsum not fluoro, quoted the wrong person. It's the PCS byproduct.
Posted by Elusiveporpi
Below I-10
Member since Feb 2011
2577 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:52 pm to
PCS product, it cant be sold because of the radioactivity , yet there are guys who work on that stack every day.................

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