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re: How are NFL players able to memorize plays and recall them during games?
Posted on 10/9/14 at 5:44 pm to hikingfan
Posted on 10/9/14 at 5:44 pm to hikingfan
you don't have to know what everyone on the play does, just your part.
Normally there is some sort of number system and key words to know. The play may be 6 words long but all your listening for is that one word related to you.
For example, it could be like "Purple penis 56 alpha dildo pants" and the slot receiver would know to run a 6 route.
Normally there is some sort of number system and key words to know. The play may be 6 words long but all your listening for is that one word related to you.
For example, it could be like "Purple penis 56 alpha dildo pants" and the slot receiver would know to run a 6 route.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 5:46 pm to BayouBandit24
quote:That's aTm's bread & butter play.
Purple penis 56 alpha dildo pants
Posted on 10/9/14 at 5:47 pm to BayouBandit24
Chad Johnson was cut from the Patriots because he could never learn the offense. Some offenses in the NFL are PhD level, even for receivers, and some are elementary school level.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 5:49 pm to hikingfan
Having common sense and being able to memorize things are in no way related not sure what correlation you are trying to make.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 6:21 pm to hikingfan
Do you even personnel packages bro
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:30 pm to hikingfan
Have you ever met Army personnel? Training. Training. Training.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:45 pm to cajunx2
There are already some good answers in the thread. If you have "32 Scotland 5 Hook Right Mustang" as the play, only one part of that play applies to you and you know what to do.
Another advantage players have is that once you play football and practice, what looks like a lot of different pieces to an outsider is a single piece of information to you. They had some psych researchers do an experiment with a chess board. Participants were divided into two groups--regular people and chessmasters. Each person was shown a chessboard for one minute and then asked to recreate the game position. When the pieces were random, neither group did well. When the pieces were taken from an actual game position, the chessmasters did far better.
The reason is that regular people saw the game position as "white rook at A2, black knight at B5..." but chessmasters saw it as "Karpov defense vs. knight gambit (made that up, but the point stands.)
Another advantage players have is that once you play football and practice, what looks like a lot of different pieces to an outsider is a single piece of information to you. They had some psych researchers do an experiment with a chess board. Participants were divided into two groups--regular people and chessmasters. Each person was shown a chessboard for one minute and then asked to recreate the game position. When the pieces were random, neither group did well. When the pieces were taken from an actual game position, the chessmasters did far better.
The reason is that regular people saw the game position as "white rook at A2, black knight at B5..." but chessmasters saw it as "Karpov defense vs. knight gambit (made that up, but the point stands.)
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:48 pm to MountainTiger
Thats pretty extensive.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:49 pm to hikingfan
I'd have to dig it up, but playbooks are pretty easy to read and memorize.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:22 pm to hikingfan
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But how are they able to adapt so quickly to another team when they are traded mid-season for example when the playbooks and the nomenclature are obviously different? I've seem guys play one week for another team and then for a different team the following week and they seem to do fine.
They study the playbook a lot? And most of the plays are very similar, just different vocabulary. And if they don't know, they ask the player next to them...not that hard to figure out
Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:23 pm to hikingfan
quote:So... Guys in good, well respected professions never commit murder, abuse their kids, and smoke weed, molest children ?
If history is anything to go by, NFL players don't seem to be a very bright bunch for the most part - OJ, Aaron Hernandez, Adrian Peterson etc.... the list goes on
That seems awfully naive.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:55 pm to shel311
I was 7 when I memorized the multiplication tables up to 12x12. It's not that hard. they do the same thing all year, sometimes for several years in a row. And Also a lot of their thinking is done post snap. Also players do screw up from time to time.It's not always obvious.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 1:07 am to hikingfan
It's drilled into their heads almost year round. And like someone said, it's their job. If they mess up and don't know the play, they aren't doing their job well and will get replaced.
It's all repetition and it's basically drilled into their heads and becomes second nature to them. It's not like they draw a play in the dirt and expect everyone to remember it. Thats why they watch film, meetings, have practice, look at pictures of plays during games that just happened 2 minutes ago, etc. They study that shite like the average person studies for a test or presentations or product lines etc.
And honestly, once you play football your entire life and get to the NFL, you've pretty much seen everything in regards to plays and stuff. . Like there isn't a route you didn't run in college that they run in the NFL. Most formations are the same / similar to what they ran in college. It's the wording that changes, but typically most concepts are similar.
It's all repetition and it's basically drilled into their heads and becomes second nature to them. It's not like they draw a play in the dirt and expect everyone to remember it. Thats why they watch film, meetings, have practice, look at pictures of plays during games that just happened 2 minutes ago, etc. They study that shite like the average person studies for a test or presentations or product lines etc.
And honestly, once you play football your entire life and get to the NFL, you've pretty much seen everything in regards to plays and stuff. . Like there isn't a route you didn't run in college that they run in the NFL. Most formations are the same / similar to what they ran in college. It's the wording that changes, but typically most concepts are similar.
This post was edited on 10/10/14 at 1:13 am
Posted on 10/10/14 at 2:32 am to hikingfan
who doesn't know what Spider 2 Y Banana is and what to do on your route?
All kidding aside, some offenses are cakewalks.
One of my old high school playbooks went something like this:
3 digit series: the 1st number told us what kind of play it was going to be. Odd was a certain run, even was a certain pass and how you lined up and what route you'd run.
2nd number told us what gap the run play was going to go through. 1 = A gap, 2 = B gap, 3 = C gap, etc.
If it was a passing play, the number would coincide with whatever set
3rd number told us what kind of blocking it'd be. I think 1 was bootleg to the left or RB hits the left side.
So something like 121 Red was a running play (odd = run), 2 = B gap, 1 = left side; Red = FB hits the MLB that came through the hole.
Simple right? Imagine every playbook being different with some being harder. Once you get the lingo and what numbers mean what, learning the routes/blocking schemes are a lot easier.
Its the hardest on the QB because he has to understand every lingo coincides with where a potential receiver will be. Each position has it easier. I know during a 242 route, if I'm a WR lined up wide on the right, I'm just on a go-route and I'm his first option.
My QB has to know that route, and 3 other receiver's. A lot harder.
That's why ultimately low IQ QBs that don't practice or put much time and effort have a hard time grasping the playbook and ultimately these off-sync passes that get picked off more often than not. Smarter QBs minimize those mistakes because they know where their receivers will be, or in theory should be.
All kidding aside, some offenses are cakewalks.
One of my old high school playbooks went something like this:
3 digit series: the 1st number told us what kind of play it was going to be. Odd was a certain run, even was a certain pass and how you lined up and what route you'd run.
2nd number told us what gap the run play was going to go through. 1 = A gap, 2 = B gap, 3 = C gap, etc.
If it was a passing play, the number would coincide with whatever set
3rd number told us what kind of blocking it'd be. I think 1 was bootleg to the left or RB hits the left side.
So something like 121 Red was a running play (odd = run), 2 = B gap, 1 = left side; Red = FB hits the MLB that came through the hole.
Simple right? Imagine every playbook being different with some being harder. Once you get the lingo and what numbers mean what, learning the routes/blocking schemes are a lot easier.
Its the hardest on the QB because he has to understand every lingo coincides with where a potential receiver will be. Each position has it easier. I know during a 242 route, if I'm a WR lined up wide on the right, I'm just on a go-route and I'm his first option.
My QB has to know that route, and 3 other receiver's. A lot harder.
That's why ultimately low IQ QBs that don't practice or put much time and effort have a hard time grasping the playbook and ultimately these off-sync passes that get picked off more often than not. Smarter QBs minimize those mistakes because they know where their receivers will be, or in theory should be.
This post was edited on 10/10/14 at 2:51 am
Posted on 10/10/14 at 5:03 am to hikingfan
Judgement =/= Intelligence
Posted on 10/10/14 at 6:19 am to hikingfan
quote:If history is anything to go by, if history teaches us anything, it's that OJ and Aaron Hernandez can kill anybody
If history is anything to go by, NFL players don't seem to be a very bright bunch for the most part - OJ, Aaron Hernandez, Adrian Peterson etc....
Posted on 10/10/14 at 7:44 am to MountainTiger
Lol at some in this thread.
No, it's not NASA-level rocket science, but these NFL play books are not the high school playbooks yal are talking about memorizing. As someone said, this isn't pure memorizing, you have to understand concepts. It's the difference between a multiple choice exam and a written essay.
To truly know the playbook and be executable you have to understand the concepts. The WR has to understand how the routes are designed to attack a defense so they can adjust on the fly to defensive coverages. The OL has to understand almost every OL's responsibilities as OLs only work if they execute as one.
It's insanely difficult and takes some people over a year as some said.
No, it's not NASA-level rocket science, but these NFL play books are not the high school playbooks yal are talking about memorizing. As someone said, this isn't pure memorizing, you have to understand concepts. It's the difference between a multiple choice exam and a written essay.
To truly know the playbook and be executable you have to understand the concepts. The WR has to understand how the routes are designed to attack a defense so they can adjust on the fly to defensive coverages. The OL has to understand almost every OL's responsibilities as OLs only work if they execute as one.
It's insanely difficult and takes some people over a year as some said.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 7:50 am to hikingfan
Ocho cinco never understood the Pats playbook.
This post was edited on 10/10/14 at 7:51 am
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