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re: Time to buy some XOM(Oil stock discussions)?

Posted on 8/25/15 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by Grits N Shrimp
Kansas City, MO
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 3:58 pm to
From a long-term standpoint, does it make much of a difference which big name oil company you choose if you're going to DRIP it? XOM, CVX, COP all have strong dividend histories. BP does too excluding 2010. RDS may also be worth considering. Any strong opinions here?
This post was edited on 8/26/15 at 7:14 pm
Posted by white perch
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 5:35 pm to
I bought rds today
Posted by Iowa Golfer
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 5:54 pm to
RDS is a good buy for a long term hold. You have about 6% downside that costs you zero in opportunity cost. Probably more than 6%, but I'm ballparking. Could be closer to 10%. There's a fancy formula for that, but just hold it and forget it. I would reinvest dividends on this one.
Posted by white perch
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 6:53 pm to
quote:

reinvest dividends on this one.


That's the plan.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 7:35 pm to
I agree. With a long term time horizon, accounting for economic cycles, I think several of these will provide the holders with some nice passive income in years to come (despite what some claim about dividends) and likely some decent appreciation along the way.
Posted by Grits N Shrimp
Kansas City, MO
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 8:27 pm to
I see opportunity for appreciation with RDS but they only have 3 years of dividend history. Why would you rely on that?
Posted by white perch
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 8:35 pm to
I chose rds because I already have xom, cvx, and cop. I just thought I'd spread it out a little more.
Posted by Grits N Shrimp
Kansas City, MO
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 10:21 pm to
Sound logic
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 11:20 am to
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I bought rds today




Welcome to the club! RDSB and COP are my two biggest major oil holdings.

Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 11:24 am to
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but they only have 3 years of dividend history.


incorrect.

LINK
Posted by Grits N Shrimp
Kansas City, MO
Member since Dec 2014
647 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 11:33 am to
Interesting. It shows up on Yahoo, but not Google finance. Wonder why. Regardless, it appears COP and RDS.B are your large cap oil companies of choice. Curious, what was the deciding factor when evaluating the top 5 or so?
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 11:55 am to
I have business ties with RDS. COP was a great value and had a better dividend rate than the others when I got in. There is nothing wrong with XOM or CVX. I simply was spread out with other energy companies and I got better values with the others at the time, many of which I sold and took profits. XOM and CVX had higher entry points and lower dividend rates at the time.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 12:59 pm to
Based on the balance sheet, position in the market, and risks ahead, I think XOM is the best buy of the majors right now. RDS is second on that list for me.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 1:41 pm to
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I think XOM is the best buy of the majors right now. RDS is second on that list for me.




Definitely a MUCH better buy now than it was when i got in originally based on entry price and dividend rate/dividend yield. If COP and RDSB continue dropping I will continue to DCA my positions on the way down AND at the same time getting more shares via dividend reinvestment!
Posted by white perch
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 8:24 pm to
what's the difference between RDS.A and RDS.B? I have RDS.A fwiw

Posted by TigerTatorTots
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Posted on 8/26/15 at 8:35 pm to
RDS-B is for US based investors. RDS-A is subject to an additional 15% tax
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 8/27/15 at 8:41 am to
What about in a roth
Posted by TigerTatorTots
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Posted on 8/27/15 at 8:48 am to
Not sure on that one
Posted by white perch
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Posted on 8/27/15 at 9:59 am to
Just sold all my A shares for a small profit. I'll buy B shares when that money becomes available.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
78937 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 10:16 am to
quote:

Just sold all my A shares for a small profit. I'll buy B shares when that money becomes available.




I just put in a order before market opened today for more RDSB.
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