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re: Rating the risks of Ebola, Isis, Colon Cancer, and Colonoscopies
Posted on 10/9/14 at 9:15 am to catholictigerfan
Posted on 10/9/14 at 9:15 am to catholictigerfan
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 9:16 am to samson'sseed
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Rating the risks of Ebola, Isis, Colon Cancer, and Colonoscopies
All less of a risk than catching the Stupid Virus by clicking on one of your threads.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 9:20 am to samson'sseed
quote:Why can't you just STFU and get in line with the rest of the pants-shitting sheople and fear who/what you are instructed to?
Number of Americans killed by Isis in the U.S. = 0
Number of Americans killed by Ebola in the U.S. =1
Average Annual deaths from Colon Cancer in the U.S. = 50,000
Posted on 10/9/14 at 9:44 am to samson'sseed
RA'd. This is the second time you've tried to spread false information, without any evidence whatsoever, about a valuable healthcare screening tool. It is dangerous talk and should not be allowed here.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 9:56 am to samson'sseed
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samson'sseed
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colonoscopies
Forgot about this shite way back when
Posted on 10/9/14 at 9:57 am to LSURussian
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LSURussian
Bringing logic into this thread
Posted on 10/9/14 at 9:58 am to samson'sseed
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These are just the facts.
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Average annual number of Americans seriously injured or killed due to colonoscopies = 70,0000.
Hardly...
Posted on 10/9/14 at 10:00 am to samson'sseed
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samson'sseed
your 1st link in BS, here is why:
1. She makes alot of claims and does not site the source
2. The first reference she links is to a study that hasn't released any results
3. The 2nd reference she listed directly contradicts what she has said.
Strike 3= you're out
Okay after previewing the 2nd article. I click on the tab for about the author.
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Mr. Monastyrsky graduated from medical university [link] in 1977 with a pharmacy degree. He is also a certified nutritional consultant and an expert in forensic nutrition, a new field of science that investigates the connection between supposedly healthy foods and nutrition-related disorders, such as diabetes and obesity.
Ok so he is a pharmacy degree from a 1970's soviet school and is a nutrionist, not an MD/DO or even a PhD.
Second his conclusions are not at all what the he cited claims.
You are dumber than Tuba
This post was edited on 10/9/14 at 10:07 am
Posted on 10/9/14 at 10:18 am to WeeWee
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The rate of perforation reported in large studies is 0.3%
or less and is generally less than 0.1%.2 In a large study of
screening colonoscopy, perforation was reported in 13 of
84,412 procedures (0.01%).19 In a case-controlled study
of 277,434 Medicaid beneficiaries undergoing colonoscopy,
the rate of perforation was 8.2 per 10,000 procedures
(0.08%) compared with 0.3 per 10,000 matched
controls (0.003%).20 In a study analyzing over 50,000
colonoscopies and using Medicare claims data, the rate of
perforation was 5 to 7 per 10,000 procedures (0.05%-
0.07%) and not significantly different for procedures
coded as screening without polypectomy, diagnostic without
polypectomy, or with polypectomy (regardless of indication).
4 Finally, in a large study of 116,000 patients
undergoing colonoscopy at ambulatory endoscopy centers,
there were 37 perforations (0.3%).21
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A number of large studies
have reported hemorrhage in 1 to 6 per 1000 colonoscopies
(0.1%-0.6%).2 A study analyzing over 50,000 colonoscopies
by using Medicare claims found that the rate of GI
hemorrhage was significantly different with or without
polypectomy: 2.1 per 1000 procedures coded as screening
without polypectomy and 3.7 per 1000 for procedures
coded as diagnostic without polypectomy, compared with
8.7 per 1000 for any procedures with polypectomy.4
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In a 2010 review of
colonoscopy complications based on prospective studies
and retrospective analyses of large clinical or administrative
databases, there were 128 deaths reported among
371,099 colonoscopies, for an unweighted pooled death
rate of 0.03%.2 All studies reported mortality within 30
days of the colonoscopy, although some reported allcause
mortality whereas others limited their analysis to
colonoscopy-specific mortality. Those reporting all-cause
mortality include 116 deaths among 176,834 patients
(0.07%).4,9,14, 49-52 Among those reporting colonoscopyspecific
mortality, there were 19 deaths among 284,097
patients (0.007%).9,19,49-56
LINK
Give that a read if it doesn't hurt your brain, OP.
This post was edited on 10/9/14 at 10:19 am
Posted on 10/9/14 at 10:33 am to MSMHater
That mortality rate means that 1000 deaths per 14.3 million procedures meaning the OP is claiming over 700,000,000 colonoscopies performed yearly
Posted on 10/9/14 at 10:39 am to TX Tiger
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Why can't you just STFU and get in line with the rest of the pants-shitting sheople and fear who/what you are instructed to?
This was a colonoscopy thread...not an ISIS thread. You believe colonoscopies are a big conspiracy too???This post was edited on 10/9/14 at 10:39 am
Posted on 10/9/14 at 10:44 am to samson'sseed
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Average annual number of Americans seriously injured or killed due to colonoscopies = 70,0000.
I'm sure you don't realize this, but shoving a dildo up your own arse =/= a colonoscopy.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 10:53 am to samson'sseed
I was unaware that Isis, Colon Cancer, and colonoscopies were highly infectious diseases.
How about a quiz? Who would you rather be in a room with for 10 hours? Rank in order of priority?
A. Isis
B. Ebola Victim
C. Colon Cancer Victim
D. Someone getting a colonoscopy
Also, if you want to go that route, more people are killed by knives than by guns. Just the facts...
How about a quiz? Who would you rather be in a room with for 10 hours? Rank in order of priority?
A. Isis
B. Ebola Victim
C. Colon Cancer Victim
D. Someone getting a colonoscopy
Also, if you want to go that route, more people are killed by knives than by guns. Just the facts...
This post was edited on 10/9/14 at 10:55 am
Posted on 10/9/14 at 10:57 am to samson'sseed
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According to the American Cancer Society, colonoscopies do not reduce the death rate of colon cancer.
Well, you fricking idiot, it definitely spots and is part of early detection, allowing colon cancer to be stopped and removed.
I guess you believe mammograms are not responsible for saving lives of people with breast cancer.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 10:59 am to LSURussian
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I'm not sure other posters *St George* agree with you.
Wow. You really believe just because some of us hold different views from us, that we wish you dead? That speaks more about you than SG supporters.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:12 am to BugAC
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According to the American Cancer Society, colonoscopies do not reduce the death rate of colon cancer.
Well, you fricking idiot, it definitely spots and is part of early detection, allowing colon cancer to be stopped and removed.
I guess you believe mammograms are not responsible for saving lives of people with breast cancer.
More recent studies shows a greater than 50% mortality reduction with colonoscopy. NEJM zauber 2012.
The question regarding mammograms is more complicated and currently controversial. it definitely detects cancer early but the mortality benefit is not clear. There is the issue of lead time bias which confounds things for one. Likely there will be subgroups where mammograms have clear benefit and others not so much. Finding DCIS in an 85 year old is labelled as a cancer diagnosis in with this data, and may be better left not found. This is just one example.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:18 am to samson'sseed
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Average annual number of Americans seriously injured or killed due to colonoscopies = 70,0000.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:23 am to Projectpat
apparently sampson's seed has realized he is the butt of the joke and hauled arse
Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:26 am to WeeWee
No he just thinks he won and left with a sense of victory. Math and logic be damned
Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:29 am to LSURussian
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It was discovered by my first ever colonoscopy that my doctor had been advising me to have. I finally took his advice. I was stupid to wait as long as I did.
One of my golfing partners had a colonoscopy yesterday. We're playing tomorrow. I'm hoping the procedure has caused some residual side effects that hinder his game for at least one day so I can finally beat him.
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