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Should we take a few LBs in this class?

Posted on 10/5/14 at 9:58 pm
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 9:58 pm
Is it me or does it seem like LSU isn't recruiting enough LBs? Next year we'll have most of our LBs as seniors...shouldn't we be recruiting 2-3 this year so they can be developed a little more 2 years from now? We're kinda having a problem now with LB development...

It's also possible Beckwith leaves early next year and then we're left with Garrett and ???
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25949 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 10:03 pm to
We have 15 offers out to linebackers, doesn't look like they are all that interested though
Posted by FlappingPierre
St. George
Member since Nov 2013
4406 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 10:08 pm to
IDK but we need linebackers baaaaaad
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 10:10 pm to
Yeah, it seems like a position that should have a little more priority by the staff as a need. You can't expect a RS freshman to come in and start...but it's looking like we'll have at least 2 after next year and possible true freshman if we get nothing this year. I don't get it. How's this not a major need for us? It's also possible we suffer faster attrition at that position than we expect and maybe a guy like Clifton doesn't work out...

The team is in trouble right now partly from attrition and not filling holes in specific years between. We're forced to start younger guys. I wish Miles and staff would look at positions harder and plan for the future. At least get a guy in the system for 2 years before thinking about starting them.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25949 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 10:11 pm to
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At least get a guy in the system for 2 years before thinking about starting them.


Hard to convince elite talent to wait two years when your selling point is getting guys to the league.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 10:25 pm to
It's a terrible selling point because it kills us attrition wise. If they're going to sell that then they need to recruit better. In other words, you need 25 premium blue chips getting scholarships and no guys who are iffy on the fence SEC players. It's either that or you need more project guys in your system who will sit in it for 4 years. Preferably the first option though...

IMO, we don't have room anymore for project guys with the way attrition is slaughtering us. We need to identify guys who can either develop fast or play day 1 in our system. Only way that's going to happen is get the elite blue chips in every position.

LSU needs to crank recruiting up somehow. I don't know how but they need to do it. top 5 class every year.
This post was edited on 10/5/14 at 10:28 pm
Posted by rzd30
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2008
1108 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:04 pm to
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IMO, we don't have room anymore for project guys with the way attrition is slaughtering us. We need to identify guys who can either develop fast or play day 1 in our system. Only way that's going to happen is get the elite blue chips in every position.


Are you serious? Actual question?

First, people have no concept of how hard it is for freshmen in this league to come in and contribute as freshmen. Second, over the last two weeks with the exception of the punter, I believe I have heard we need to fire the HC, OC,DC and every position coach. So we go out and sign 3 LBs this year? They would not contribute and if they had to we would be in even worse trouble we are now. Recruiting is a 2-3 to even 4 year plan. Clifton Garret "blue chipper" as they are called has not seen the field. Why? Not because he is not talented enough or our coaching is terrible. He is not ready and that is okay.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:19 pm to
That's the point I'm making...you develop them but LSU markets this silly 3 and done. It's killing us in attrition so if they're going to go with that plan they need to recruit better.
Posted by rzd30
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2008
1108 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 12:04 am to
What about this year when we don't have a lot of guys leave early? Do we stop recruiting as hard and are able to take more project guys.

I am not trying to be a dick. But I swear some fans would rather us not have NFL caliber guys. It is a different college game than even 10 years ago. Recruiting is not the problem, development is not the problem, we just got hit in a bad year, when we are extremely young and most importantly inexperienced.

Why is it silly to market to kids whose dream is to play in the NFL, oh we are the best at getting guys to the league and we have sent more guys early than anyone else. Your strategy would be to tell guys hey I am really sorry but I will need you to stay all 4-5 years, no leaving early. I am sure our recruiting would sky rocket then.
Posted by reiszner
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2013
60 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 12:14 am to
For us we have a lot of LB's, but you still have to recruit maybe 1. This year we need OT, OG, and DT, DE, RB.

ABR = Always Be Recruiting...

Glen Gary Glen Ross

Posted by rzd30
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2008
1108 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 12:20 am to
quote:

ABR = Always Be Recruiting...

Agree 100%

Yes but so far looking at our commitments they will fill needs 2-3 years from now. Why would we need to load up on DT's or DE's this year? O don't not understand the fanbase and their transformation of freshmen into starters day one.

I will take a 4 year Senior who was a 3 star over a freshmen 5 star every day of the week if I had a game today and who to start today.
Posted by Tigerfan_95
Member since Jun 2014
2932 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:20 am to
Playing as freshman is also one of our biggest selling points. That's why garret was so mad at the beginning of the year and didn't want to redshirt. I'm sure he was told if he came to lsu he would be competing with welter for the starting spot in year 1
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10472 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:36 am to
Chief is not looking like a guy LBers want to play for at this point. He's only developed one good to great linebacker in quite a while and he got drafted in the 2nd round.

From Linebackers he's recruited at LSU since 2009, he's developed 2 into draft picks (Minter and Barrow) and likely Alexander from this class. He's just not as big a guru as most think at the position, but hits lightning in a bottle from time to time.
Posted by Playerschoice
Trillville
Member since Apr 2014
52 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 11:31 am to
LSU needs to sign Prevost or K.Jackson from Haynesville. LINK
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Posted by IowaTigerHawk
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2009
265 posts
Posted on 10/10/14 at 9:18 am to
The entire front 7 needs an infusion of talent.







Bad.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17334 posts
Posted on 10/10/14 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

That's the point I'm making...you develop them but LSU markets this silly 3 and done. It's killing us in attrition so if they're going to go with that plan they need to recruit better.


You think our coaches prefer losing players after 3 years? The NFL brought this on us with the wage scale, not our staff pitching it. Our staff is just trying to make the most of it by saying we have done it better than anyone else.

Of course they would sign 25 blue chips a year if they could. Not sure where you're going with that. The answer IS to take a few project guys you can count on being in the system for at least 4 years to compensate for the turnover. Some pan out, and some don't, which is exactly what you're seeing with the LBs this year.

In fact your OP is a perfect illustration. This year, the studs just aren't there, so if we do sign some LBs we'll slow play them, pick the ones that can hopefully be developed, and sign Joyner next year.
Posted by tigers32
Member since Mar 2012
5635 posts
Posted on 10/11/14 at 10:23 am to
quote:

LSU needs to crank recruiting up somehow. I don't know how but they need to do it. top 5 class every year.

You need to adjust your expectations a bit.
Posted by rjokerlsu
Big Spring, TX
Member since Apr 2007
6895 posts
Posted on 10/11/14 at 12:02 pm to
Yes,LB recruiting should be a higher priority than it appears to be presently.

I saw on a different post a few weeks ago that there is a pretty good chance Voorheis will be moved from safety to LB.

And maybe Donnie Alexander will be ready to contribute next season.
Posted by roguetiger15
Member since Jan 2013
16181 posts
Posted on 10/11/14 at 12:23 pm to
we should and we will. it'll still be tough to replace welter however.
Posted by seinfeldtiger
San Diego
Member since Sep 2009
1718 posts
Posted on 10/11/14 at 1:30 pm to
Every school in America should take 10 bigs, 3 LB's and 12 skill perimeter players every year. Saban did it at LSU, Miles continued to do if but something has happen that it's not being done consistently..
This post was edited on 10/11/14 at 1:35 pm
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