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Since most articles today are depressing, read Holder's

Posted on 10/1/14 at 7:09 pm
Posted by BlacknGold
He Hate Me
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 7:09 pm
He basically tried to represent the "mob mentality" fans that are in outrage (probably rightfully so) about his performance so far.

In regards to his arm strength:

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You can't make back-to-back perfect throws downfield to Kenny Stills during the third quarter in the Dallas loss if you have no arm strength. It's become cliché to mention it as an excuse.


a big thing Holder harps on is the fact that a lot of the players that were around for the resilient times like losing your last 3 games in 09 or in 2011 where we had a rough start are now gone. This is scary because, will these young guys have the heart to shape up or will they get swallowed up by defeat?

the most terrifying part of the article are the eerily similar 2 roads we could go down.

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A 35-year-old John Elway and the Denver Broncos opened the season the 1995 with a 2-3 record. They finished 8-8 and missed the postseason. The next three years Denver finished with double-digit wins in each season and two Super Bowl titles.


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A 36-year-old Favre sunk with the Packers to an 0-4 start in 2005. Green Bay finished 4-12. The Packers limped out to a 1-4 start again in 2006 and finished 8-8 with no postseason with a 37-year-old Favre at quarterback. Favre found new life in Minnesota a couple of years later.


basically its very possible to rebound if the team believes and wants to. or we can go down in flames like favre and the packers. its good read.

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Posted by Laaz2750
Los Angeles
Member since Aug 2008
8384 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 8:11 pm to
Good article, thanks. I don't think we're going to get any real answers for a while... even if we blow out the Bucs in the Dome, what will that really prove?
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 8:12 pm to
We fine.... just over thinking everything

Should have started 3-0..... but thats NFL football
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30139 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 8:16 pm to
We should be or rather could be 3-1 right now. But the Falcons could be something like 9-7. Coulda, shoulda, woulda, didn't.

The things we need to address we need the team to address on their own in the locker rooms, tape room, and when they're practicing.

Looking at the end of the year after it all, we need to seriously look at saying goodbye to some vets and strike on the draft. We are getting too many holes, and trading up to lose some of those picks aren't worth it. Taking projects early on isn't helping when we need help NOW. Maybe they thought Patrick Robinson was gonna return to his 2011 version, but that hasn't happened yet.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63666 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 7:29 am to
I think the reports of Brees' demise are greatly exaggerated and premature. He's had a rough stretch, but by no means is there reason to think he's done.

Really, the only loss that really disturbs me is Dallas. And, like most, it's not the loss so much as it is the way the Saints lost.

And it is absolutely spot on to focus on how the new players react. Brees actually alluded to that yesterday. The season isn't lost, but it's going to take a lot of guts, hard work and focus to turn it around.
Posted by TigerWise
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Member since Sep 2010
35113 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 11:09 am to
He makes some good points that should help with Drew's trade value
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24758 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 11:56 am to
I like Holder, and I agree with this. I do think the Brees fears are a bit over-exaggerated.



HOWEVER, the signs of decline are there and have been for a short while now. This does not mean we can't win with him, nor does it mean he is a bad QB. I think he is a top 10 QB in the league at the moment, and I am all about riding his dwindling arm until he can't fap anymore. But let's start facing reality in that he is aging and starting to become less great than what he has been.
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