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re: About to put my son in drug rehab. update page 20
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:56 am to MBclass83
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:56 am to MBclass83
Put him in a state funded facility. Let him see what bottom of the barrel looks like. The only ones I can think of off hand are LHRO and baton rouge detox. I don't know if they're still open.
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:58 am to SmackoverHawg
Palmetto is in Rayville, LA.
This program saved my life.
As for suboxone, lots of guys came in heroine addicts and hooked on suboxone. I know it's supposed to cancel it out, most of them just ended up selling the suboxone for cash to buy more opiates.
This program saved my life.
As for suboxone, lots of guys came in heroine addicts and hooked on suboxone. I know it's supposed to cancel it out, most of them just ended up selling the suboxone for cash to buy more opiates.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:02 am to MBclass83
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Any recommendations for the Baton Rouge area?
in all honesty, if you're going to plunk down that kind of coin for impatient rehab, take him far as frick away from where you live
until he isn't around his peer group, he will have major issues staying clean
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:04 am to MBclass83
The wealthy rehab people I know all go to St. Christopher.
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 8:06 am
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:04 am to MBclass83
If he normally lives in BR, send him somewhere he hasn't been before. You don't want him tempted to leave or have friends or drug dealers bring him drugs. Being in a new place forces him to keep up with the rehab program. The same thing goes for post-rehab, and it's even more important then to reduce chances of relapse
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:04 am to Peazey
Catching a kid with a joint should be treated like underage drinking. Idiot parents who send their kids to rehab for that are putting them in the wrong environment and making it worse.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:05 am to madamsquirrel
I agree.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:07 am to ragacamps
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I’ve heard Townsend (may be spelled wrong) is great.Also, not sure what his addiction is, but I have heard that Suboxen treatment when done in a very short period of time, less than 2 weeks, really works. The only thing you have to deal with shitty cash hungry doctors that take cash only and want the patient to stay on the medication for long time frames to milk money. However, I know a person who had a really bad opioid problem and took suboxen for two weeks to help with withdrawals, and never touched the stuff again. Completely different guy today.
Wouldn't recommend that stuff. Depending on their mindset, it's a crutch.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:08 am to porter8
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As for suboxone, lots of guys came in heroine addicts and hooked on suboxone. I know it's supposed to cancel it out, most of them just ended up selling the suboxone for cash to buy more opiates.
People can abuse anything. They're selling it cuz it don't do shite for them. The people buying are usually getting it to keep them from withdrawls and it does help with pain. It's very expensive and everyone here that does suboxone clinics is cash only. Usually $400+ first visit then $235-$275 monthly after, not counting meds.
In general if someone can quit and stay clean without anything, that's the best. I'm just saying don't rule it out due to misinformation and anectdotal stories on the OT. Despite what the think, the average OT'er doesn't know jack shite about medicine or it's pharmacology, uses etc.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:09 am to TheBoo
suboxone is for opiate addiction, right? i've heard withdrawals from opiates (all the way up to heroin) is basically like a bad case of the flu
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:10 am to Artie Rome
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As length of treatment goes up, so do success rates.
This is true. I went to countless detox facilities, 3 30 day treatment centers and 1 90 day treatment center. I'd always relapse within weeks of getting out. I went to a 24 month treatment center in 2006 and have been clean ever since.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:13 am to TheBoo
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The only thing you have to deal with shitty cash hungry doctors that take cash only and want the patient to stay on the medication for long time frames to milk money
That's why I said reputable doc's. Louisiana is notorious for the doc's you described. That's why if I'm ever assisting someone, the charge is zero or minimum. Especially if I prescribed the the med they are currently addicted to. Unfortunately, our laws in Arkansas limit how much I can legally help them. But, they do prevent doc's from writing the suboxone and milking pt's in the way you describe. And they are required to show adequate knowledge of the meds. I've seen LA doc's give pt's suboxone that were currently still using/abusing opiates and send them into life threatening drug withdrawls.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:14 am to whit
Palmetto class of 2011 and haven't touched anything since. Great place of you want it.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:15 am to LouisianaLady
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The wealthy rehab people I know all go to St. Christopher.
You must be talking about outpatient.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:17 am to SlowFlowPro
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i've heard withdrawals from opiates (all the way up to heroin) is basically like a bad case of the flu
Way worse if people are on extremely high daily doses. Not too bad if they don't exceed normal recommended doses. But it all depends on the total daily dose and length of treatment/abuse. Too many docs cold turkey pt's on their meds once their underlying issue is treated. However if someone has been on pain management for any length of time, they need to be weaned down. Failure to do so often leads to drug seeking behavior by otherwise good pt's to prevent the withdrawl symptoms. I see this a lot by surgeons. They love to drop a pt ASAP once they are done with them with no thought of the consequences going forward.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:17 am to SlowFlowPro
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suboxone is for opiate addiction, right?
Correct.
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i've heard withdrawals from opiates (all the way up to heroin) is basically like a bad case of the flu
That is minimizing it a bit. I've seen people that looked like they would be better off dead than suffering the withdrawals they were going through. But opiate withdrawal will not kill you. Just make you wish you were dead. Now withdrawal from alcohol and withdrawal from benzos can actually kill you.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:19 am to Artie Rome
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That is minimizing it a bit. I've seen people that looked like they would be better off dead than suffering the withdrawals they were going through. But opiate withdrawal will not kill you. Just make you wish you were dead. Now withdrawal from alcohol and withdrawal from benzos can actually kill you.
very true. Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:22 am to SlowFlowPro
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i've heard withdrawals from opiates (all the way up to heroin) is basically like a bad case of the flu
More like worse case of flu ever x 2. Add stomach pain, diarrhea, and severe restless legs type symptoms but all over your body. Can't sleep to get through it. Worst symptoms can last several days. 100% non-functional during this. Can't work, can't take care of kids etc. All the while knowing if you take some of the magical pills you're addicted to, it'll all stop. At least for awhile.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:24 am to Artie Rome
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You must be talking about outpatient.
I have a buddy who works at St. Christopher's. Their facilites in capital heights are probably the nicest I've ever been in.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:24 am to SmackoverHawg
hey i quit cigarettes cold turkey, which are the most physically addicting things on earth
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