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Do you believe that the United States was founded as a Christian Nation?
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:30 am
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:30 am
Was having an interesting conversation about this with someone on Facebook. I tried to explain to her that most of the founding fathers were Deists and not Christians. She obviously did not believe me even after I provided quotes from several of the founding fathers. What are your thoughts on this?
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:32 am to mouton
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most of the founding fathers were Deists and not Christians.
Nope.
I don't know what "founded as a Christian Nation" means, though. So, I can't answer.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:33 am to mouton
Christian ideals are not encompassed in the Constitution, or the by-laws of this nation. Some are based purely on Universal rights. But not Christianity
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:33 am to mouton
I believe this country was founded on Christian principles.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:33 am to mouton
Of course it was founded as a Christian nation, and that fact is as plain as the name of Jesus, which appears MANY times in our Constitution.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:34 am to Y.A. Tittle
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I don't know what "founded as a Christian Nation" means, though. So, I can't answer.
yeah i'm with this response
was our country founded with a super duper majority of its citizenry christian? yes
were our founding fathers christian? for the most part (it may not be a style of Christianity we recognize today, but w/e)
was our country founded in Judeo-Christian/Western thought? without a doubt
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:34 am to mouton
Yes, most of our laws fall in lock step with the bible.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:35 am to mouton
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Do you believe that the United States was founded as a Christian Nation?
DOesnt say it in the Constitution.
I don't think it says it in the Articles of Confederation either. If I'm wrong on that, let me know.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:35 am to dante
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I believe this country was founded on Christian principles.
Name some of these Christian principles. Quote a scripture, compare that to the laws if this country.
References please
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:35 am to mouton
If you read the private letters of the founders as well as their speeches there are constant references to "God" and "Providence (God)". Not a lot of "Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior."
This is also true of the letters we have from Civil War era correspondence. Centenary College was founded as a Christian School in 1825. (if you consider Methodists to be Christians); yet when class was canceled due to the Civil War the minutes of the last faculty meeting said "God Help the Right."
It did not say "Jesus Help the Right."
This is also true of the letters we have from Civil War era correspondence. Centenary College was founded as a Christian School in 1825. (if you consider Methodists to be Christians); yet when class was canceled due to the Civil War the minutes of the last faculty meeting said "God Help the Right."
It did not say "Jesus Help the Right."
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:38 am to mouton
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tried to explain to her that most of the founding fathers were Deists and not Christians
This really isn't accurate. Several of the more prominent ones were deist and that fact is mistakenly used to suggest the majority were.
But let's say for the sake of argument that you were correct, what did the founding fathers intend? I suggest they thought there was no need for an over-bearing government because the majority of citizens were God-fearing and did their best to live what they believed to be moral lives.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:38 am to mouton
Nope.
There are some Christian values within the founding documents, but it wasn't set up as a Christian nation.
There are some Christian values within the founding documents, but it wasn't set up as a Christian nation.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:39 am to mouton
No.
Most who came were Christians.
So you get a country with a mostly Christian outlook.
Most who came were Christians.
So you get a country with a mostly Christian outlook.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:40 am to Zach
"The general principles, on which the Fathers achieved independence, were the only Principles in which that beautiful Assembly of young Gentlemen could Unite, and these Principles only could be intended by them in their address, or by me in my answer. And what were these general Principles? I answer, the general Principles of Christianity, in which all these Sects were United: And the general Principles of English and American Liberty, in which all those young Men United, and which had United all Parties in America, in Majorities sufficient to assert and maintain her Independence. - John Adams
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:41 am to mouton
No.
There wouldn't be a Freedom of Religion.
There wouldn't be a Freedom of Religion.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:43 am to mouton
It was not founded primarily by Christians but it was explicitly founded NOT to be a Christian state. Hence, the establishment clause. Were the values of the founding fathers Judeo-Christian as opposed to say, Eastern? Absolutely. But the fabric of the Constitution and Declaration of Independence were based on Enlightenment principles, not the Bible.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:45 am to Lg
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"The general principles, on which the Fathers achieved independence, were the only Principles in which that beautiful Assembly of young Gentlemen could Unite, and these Principles only could be intended by them in their address, or by me in my answer. And what were these general Principles? I answer, the general Principles of Christianity, in which all these Sects were United: And the general Principles of English and American Liberty, in which all those young Men United, and which had United all Parties in America, in Majorities sufficient to assert and maintain her Independence.
Sorry, his offhand quote doesn't make up for the actual content of the Constitution.
Not to mention Jefferson and Franklin were clearly Deist.
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 11:46 am
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:45 am to Lg
Thanks. I've never read that. I'm assuming it's a letter written his old age since he refers to 'fathers' as if he were not one of the founders.
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