re: More crashed IRS HDDs

yeah i give VB credick on that one

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Who in the hell is destroying all these hard drives? This is such a blatant attempt at a cover-up, and, sadly, it may work, because the evidence of whatever happened may never be recovered.

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I think they gave them to Gallagher to use in place of the watermelon at his shows.

As far as the evidence goes, the HD isn't the main repository of this info... it's the servers behind the scenes which are supposed to log e-mails sent and received by IRS employees.

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Tell us when you get tired of defending this.

Tell us when you get embarassed defending this.

We have no other way of knowing.

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I only defend what's mine. The IRS is not mine.

I've given my opinion on some of the issues:

1. That Lerner's invocation of her 5th Amendment privilege was legit.

2. That under the letter of the law, most of these tea party groups don't qualify under the tax exempt statute nor do many other groups who have been given that status like Rove's, the Koch's and the liberal groups.

3. Tea Party groups complaining about being targets is tantamount to students being targeted at football games for liquor. Sure it's unfair that they get searched more than other gates. But if they don't qualify, they don't qualify.

3. Congress needs to get rid of the law or be more specific.

4. It's a question whether the IRS targeted them because it was an easy way to flag political groups or because there was an agenda.

5. If there was a political agenda, it's unclear whose agenda.

Anyone who has formed an opinion on this being political does so based on assumptions and not on facts.

Do you know what the probabilities of the HDD of nearly every person under investigation to have crashed nearly at the same time is....

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First it was just Lerner’s computer that was affected, then those of her closest co-conspirators, then “no more than twenty” computers, and now an ever larger batch of burned out workstations.

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I am an administrator at my company.

If I allowed this to happen, I would be fired almost immediately. One part of IT work is being able to recognize these types of problems before they surface.

So either the IRS has the most incompetent IT department ever, or they're full of shite.

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1. That Lerner's invocation of her 5th Amendment privilege was legit.

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It would have been legit had she not given a speech prior to invoking it.

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2. That under the letter of the law, most of these tea party groups don't qualify under the tax exempt statute nor do many other groups who have been given that status like Rove's, the Koch's and the liberal groups.

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Equal treatment under the law is "the letter of the law" as well. Targeting specific groups based on political beliefs is illegal.

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3. Tea Party groups complaining about being targets is tantamount to students being targeted at football games for liquor. Sure it's unfair that they get searched more than other gates. But if they don't qualify, they don't qualify.

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4. It's a question whether the IRS targeted them because it was an easy way to flag political groups or because there was an agenda.

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They were flagged disproportionately. Requests of tax exemption from conservative groups were held up for years. Inappropriate info was requested by the IRS, including donor lists. The IRS then disseminated donor lists and confidential tax information from these groups to their political enemies and other government agencies (which is illegal).

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5. If there was a political agenda, it's unclear whose agenda.

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Is there anybody being investigated who's hard drive has NOT crashed? That would be a huge story...

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Anyone who has formed an opinion on this being political does so based on assumptions and not on facts.

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It would be nice to find out, but all the evidence keeps disappearing. This is tantamount to a mafia investigation where all the key witnesses keep dying. No evidence, no crime.

You're telling us that it is bad to assume without the facts, which is very convenient for the side that benefits from all of the evidence that goes missing. but all we have is a pattern of abuse and what appears to be a coverup...

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I'm not saying assuming is bad. I'm saying assuming is assuming.

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According to the laws of quantum mechanics, one could theoretically walk through solid brick walls (quantum tunneling). The odds of this happening are astronomical of course and would move well beyond the realm of assumption in our critical response to someone who has claimed to have done it.

Given the probabilities of so many HDD crashes among a select group of people within a specific time frame...........I think we are beyond assumptions at this point.