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re: Section 8 is a curse
Posted on 8/25/14 at 8:05 am to mauser
Posted on 8/25/14 at 8:05 am to mauser
Section 8 burned me as well. I bought my first house out of college for 142k in a fairly nice starter home neighborhood south of Atlanta. The house was new. It was a very large subdivision and during the downturn the developer couldn't sell any of the last phase so he had it zoned section 8. I sold my house 6 years after I bought it for exactly what it appraised for, which was 39k! 
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Posted on 8/25/14 at 8:09 am to chadau79
Just wait until the mandated Section 8 starts happening, when the government forces select properties in high income neighborhoods to be section 8, then all hell will break loose as suburban families will no longer have anywhere to run to.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 8:20 am to chadau79
Jesus.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 8:40 am to Tingle
I disagree. Section 8 did wonders for the Gardere and Melrose East (aka "Mall City") areas.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 8:47 am to kingbob
People with means will run to neighborhoods with strict zoning that forbids multi family homes. Subsidized housing will make sprawl even worse if the government goes that route.
When they move, their employers will follow them...which is an existing trend that a lot of new-urbanist types don't like to awknowledge.
When they move, their employers will follow them...which is an existing trend that a lot of new-urbanist types don't like to awknowledge.
This post was edited on 8/25/14 at 8:57 am
Posted on 8/25/14 at 8:51 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Section 8 may be bad in some ways, but it allows folks who can't afford the market rate for rents to have a place to live.
Do you want more homeless families?
This is how white flight takes place. HOA's can prevent this happening to good neighborhoods
Everyone wants to discuss race but they don't want to talk about issues (behaviors/choices) that lead to devastating consequences.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 8:53 am to kingbob
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Just wait until the mandated Section 8 starts happening, when the government forces select properties in high income neighborhoods to be section 8, then all hell will break loose as suburban families will no longer have anywhere to run to.
never happen
Posted on 8/25/14 at 8:56 am to Tingle
Section 8 is terrible for pretty much everyone. If you own property near it then it drives down the value and will ruin a area. If you are one of the few poors that tries to actually better yourself the section 8 hand out looks good at first but is a toxic environment. The good residents often live near trash and as always trash wins out and takes everyone down. Then you have the ones that just want a place to live and they are basically entrapped in section 8 because why do better when you have a roof provided for you. Section 8 and mix income is a nice sweet idea on paper but in reality its a nightmare. Even the new plan of trying to keep them clean will never work because eventually leaches will leach and the nice new mixed income areas will go to shite. The only winner in section 8 housing is the slum lords. They get a pay check no matter what and barely have to do any maintenance when problems arise.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:04 am to heartbreakTiger
quote:Exactly. There's a man in Gonzales that bought up a whole street after he started making it Section 8 because the home values went to crap. He evicted anyone living in the houses that couldn't get Section 8 and has become wealthy, while the street is one of the worst in Ascension Parish. Not only did he do this, but after he failed a couple times, he finally got his son elected Justice of The Peace, who just so happens to handle disputes between landlords and tenants. This guy is a predator scumbag.
The only winner in section 8 housing is the slum lords. They get a pay check no matter what and barely have to do any maintenance when problems arise.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:10 am to ApexTiger
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never happen
You haven't been keeping up with current events have you?
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:13 am to Carville
All slum lords are douche bags. they ruin the area around their slums. Baton Rouge fricked its self by allowing section 8 to pretty much go up anywhere.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:42 am to heartbreakTiger
Yep. When I was at LSU, I lived in a really nice 4-plex on Starboard Lane. That was early 80's. When I came back 10 years later it was shite.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:55 am to kingbob
quote:you can see a lot of TVs from the street?
based on the section 8 neighborhoods I drive through regularly with 50" TV's
Posted on 8/25/14 at 10:01 am to Tigah in the ATL
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you can see a lot of TVs from the street?
Yep, ain't none of 'dem eva heard of no windaw treatments, baw!
Posted on 8/25/14 at 10:01 am to Carville
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Yep. When I was at LSU, I lived in a really nice 4-plex on Starboard Lane. That was early 80's. When I came back 10 years later it was shite.
Rich kids lived on the south side of Gardere in the nice townhomes back then. Now you don't want to get caught in that area after dark.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 12:26 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Section 8 may be bad in some ways, but it allows folks who can't afford the market rate for rents to have a place to live.
Not sure if trolling?
Section 8 is a fricking trap. People that end up in section 8 housing have a hard time getting out. It helps a really small percentage of the people in the program. It keeps all the rest right where they are. Got a better job? Good for you. No more section 8 rates. Oh, toy don't have enough saved for a new place? frick you. You shouldn't have gotten a better job.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 1:16 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Do you want more homeless families?
Do you not want more working families who have a sense of responsibility?
I grew up in poverty as did most of my generation in Louisiana. We took advantage of opportunities and got out of poverty.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 1:49 pm to roygu
Section 8 properties don't have to drag a neighborhood down, but it takes a landlord who actively polices their property(ies) to make that happen.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 2:56 pm to Bard
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Section 8 properties don't have to drag a neighborhood down,
Dan Uggla doesn't have to be the worst baseball player in history. He just is.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 3:14 pm to Bard
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Section 8 properties don't have to drag a neighborhood down, but it takes a landlord who actively polices their property(ies) to make that happen.
The issue is that the landlord has no incentive to do this, in fact, he has a disincentive to maintain it due to the fact that the tenants have a high likelihood to destroy the property due to the fact that they have no stake in it (can't be kicked out for it, don't really pay for it, not risking a deposit, ect). Why would they maintain it only for the next tenant to completely destroy it again? They get the check no matter what.
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