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Serious Question About the St Louis Outrage
Posted on 8/12/14 at 6:48 am
Posted on 8/12/14 at 6:48 am
Where's the outrage over the daily black on black violent crimes in America? Why is it necessary for the black community to turn a blind eye to the thousands of crimes daily across the country in their community and get outraged over one white person shooting a black person?
I do not know if the shooting in St Louis was justified or not. We will watch it unfold in the court system and have to trust their decision at that time. However, 16 people were shot over the weekend in New Orleans, 7 of them in one drive-by shooting Sunday evening where two children were shot and one died. Where's the outrage over this?
If they put this much effort into addressing their own problems by removing the racial element out of the equation, the country would be much better off. This is where Obama missed the boat on his presidency. The black community needs a leader to step up front and center to tackle their largest issue that's last name isn't Jackson or Sharpton spewing hate as soon as they are on TV.
I do not know if the shooting in St Louis was justified or not. We will watch it unfold in the court system and have to trust their decision at that time. However, 16 people were shot over the weekend in New Orleans, 7 of them in one drive-by shooting Sunday evening where two children were shot and one died. Where's the outrage over this?
If they put this much effort into addressing their own problems by removing the racial element out of the equation, the country would be much better off. This is where Obama missed the boat on his presidency. The black community needs a leader to step up front and center to tackle their largest issue that's last name isn't Jackson or Sharpton spewing hate as soon as they are on TV.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 6:55 am to 4LSU2
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The black community needs a leader to step up front
No we don't. Just like the white community doesn't need a leader, Asian community, Hispanic community etc.
We all just need to take care of our own shite and take care of our own families.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 7:00 am to 4LSU2
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the black community
No such thing.
Signed,
Black Guy Living in Missouri
Posted on 8/12/14 at 7:04 am to 4LSU2
I don't think those guys spew hate but otherwise I think there's a lot of merit to what you're saying.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 7:13 am to 4LSU2
quote:You seriously don't understand the outrage over an unarmed kid getting killed by a police officer?
Serious Question About the St Louis Outrag
Should the entire black race be forced to take it on the chin until they resolve all of the gang problems?
Posted on 8/12/14 at 7:14 am to 4LSU2
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However, 16 people were shot over the weekend in New Orleans, 7 of them in one drive-by shooting Sunday evening where two children were shot and one died. Where's the outrage over this?
You can hear black people talk about it after almost every killing reported on tv. They don't have riots, but the most certainly bemoan the incidents of black on black crime and violent crime in general. There are several citywide black groups trying to deal with it.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 7:18 am to 4LSU2
The outrage you speak of is expressed by working with these young men and women who are at risk. That quiet work goes on everyday.
The black community has plenty of leaders, they just don't show up on TV every five seconds.
The black community has plenty of leaders, they just don't show up on TV every five seconds.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 7:37 am to 4LSU2
Live with the beasts, and you wil become a beast.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 7:39 am to 4LSU2
Why is it that whenever someone on this board starts a thread with phrases like "serious question", what follows is not serious, but rather a sounding board for Angry White Guys to bash some minority group?
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:14 am to 4LSU2
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Where's the outrage over the daily black on black violent crimes in America?
Why single out black on black crimes? Did you know that 86% of white murder victims were killed by whites? Where is the outrage over white on white crimes?
This is simply deflection. Crime is crime and the only demographic it impacts more disproportionately is the poor and downtrodden.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:16 am to 4LSU2
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Where's the outrage over the daily black on black violent crimes in America?
Why is this difficult for white people to understand?
Minority groups band together. It has always been that way and always will be.
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If they put this much effort into addressing their own problems by removing the racial element out of the equation, the country would be much better off.
yada yada yada
Black people think the country is well enough off for white people already.
Look, I'm anti-Jesse jackson and his ilk, and I believe our country is seriously weakened by this racial strife, but it's ridiculous to pretend that we don't understand how the black community could be the way they are.
And do YOU trust cops? If they came in your neighborhood and killed a young man when they could easily have not killed him, would you be cool with that? What if, at least in your mind, that sort of thing had been happening fairly regularly for as long as anyone could remember?
Cops have given "ghettos" plenty of reason to mistrust them, just like the cops have plenty of reason to distrust the ghetto.
There are no easy solutions, but certainly the solution isn't to act like things will get better by us preaching personal responsibility and acting like we don't understand.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:22 am to 4LSU2
"Where there is no vision, my people die" (Biblical). You've got a whole sub-culture of people who can't cut it in a system wherein one's ability to enjoy the kind of affluence we daily witness on the consumerist media, is measured by what they can personally bring to the value table. Which is not much. That scenario breeds envy, contempt and desperation. Throw in some Obama/Wright/Sharpton racial scapegoating/blame mongering...and over the abyss we go.
Black folk have a stronger genetic inclination toward tribalism; check out the home Continent where there are few to no Whites. Not that Whites don't, just to a lesser degree; as they employ more cunning and sophisticated ways to do what ALL people do. Get what they want, they best way they can.
Earth 2014. 'Tilling the soil'.
Black folk have a stronger genetic inclination toward tribalism; check out the home Continent where there are few to no Whites. Not that Whites don't, just to a lesser degree; as they employ more cunning and sophisticated ways to do what ALL people do. Get what they want, they best way they can.
Earth 2014. 'Tilling the soil'.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:24 am to 4LSU2
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Where's the outrage over the daily black on black violent crimes in America?
White people are too scared to be outraged by it. Don't want to be called racist.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:46 am to 4LSU2
I'm happy to talk about racial issues. I think it would be helpful, eventually.
But we can't. Not in a toxic environment where white people who say "wow, looting is bad" are shouted down as condoning the potential murder of the Brown kid. Not where noting that areas of high black resident concentration are generally not desirable places to live is considered taboo. Not where the media, the black community, the liberal white community, etc., refuse to acknowledge that when it comes to everyday violence, the black on white threat far exceeds the white on black threat, and that this leads to fear, some justified, some not.
But, from the white side, we'll have to acknowledge that this country was built without considering black people. They weren't in "our" framework for how we're going to move forward. While I think most institutionalized racism claims are ridiculous, it isn't ridiculous to recognize that a black kid in America grows up thinking a lot of schools, jobs, lifestyles, etc. just aren't for him. Some of that fault lies in the black community, but some whites refuse to even recognize that reality.
In sum, TLDR, I'm all for talking about it, but the environment just isn't conducive to a frank discussion.
But we can't. Not in a toxic environment where white people who say "wow, looting is bad" are shouted down as condoning the potential murder of the Brown kid. Not where noting that areas of high black resident concentration are generally not desirable places to live is considered taboo. Not where the media, the black community, the liberal white community, etc., refuse to acknowledge that when it comes to everyday violence, the black on white threat far exceeds the white on black threat, and that this leads to fear, some justified, some not.
But, from the white side, we'll have to acknowledge that this country was built without considering black people. They weren't in "our" framework for how we're going to move forward. While I think most institutionalized racism claims are ridiculous, it isn't ridiculous to recognize that a black kid in America grows up thinking a lot of schools, jobs, lifestyles, etc. just aren't for him. Some of that fault lies in the black community, but some whites refuse to even recognize that reality.
In sum, TLDR, I'm all for talking about it, but the environment just isn't conducive to a frank discussion.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:17 am to 4LSU2
Because the black community blames white people for all of their problems.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 7:01 am to 4LSU2
After reading this OP, I came to the realization that one of the most advantageous aspects of white privilege is that I don't have to speak for all white people, or be outraged for all white people, or be seen as a discredit (or credit) for all white people. If a bunch of white thugs launder money for violent drug dealers or if a white guy shoots up an abortion clinic - no one's gonna say "Hey TUba, where's your outrage that your white breathren did this?" When I got my PhD, no one said "Hey, TUba! You're a credit to the white race!" I was a credit to me and my family - not all whites!
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 7:02 am
Posted on 8/13/14 at 8:36 am to 4LSU2
I am outraged by the outrage of the lack of outrage.
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