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Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:21 am to kingbob
The report says that the average household income of a family in Baton Rouge is about $58,000, compared to $90,000 in St. George.
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The highest income data I could find for Sandy Springs shows a household income of $110k. The highest numbers I can find for the proposed area of st.George is 90k. No matter whose numbers you use, its not that far off.
This post was edited on 7/15/14 at 10:27 am
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:25 am to Sprocket46
quote:But BRPD would no longer provide backup to the sheriff in that area. That would change.
We already pay for sheriff's services and st.George fire. None of that is going to change.
quote:SG is 70% white. What is 'bullshite' is your attempt to hide that fact.
And St.George is not some white haven like Russian wants you to believe. The under age 18 ratio is 50/50 minority&white. Don't believe his bullshite.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:25 am to Sprocket46
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:30 am to LSURussian
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But BRPD would no longer provide backup to the sheriff in that area. That would change.
Says who?
quote:
SG is 70% white. What is 'bullshite' is your attempt to hide that fact
You are 100% correct about the population in its entirety. However, the argument that keeps getting repeated here about white kids wanting a white school system is 100% bullshite, based on the diversity of the under 18 population. When you add in the kids who won't leave Catholic school, there is a high probability that the St.George school system will have a minority Caucasian population.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:31 am to Sprocket46
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Tomorrow night! We should easily get another 1500 from that program lol
I'm pretty sure anybody that would support the segregationist movement that is "St. George" will be too busy watching Fox News, or wrestling, or may reruns of Honey Boo Boo or something. Not PBS.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:33 am to Sprocket46
So 33% higher income is comparable to you?
WOW! Tell your boss to cut your pay by 1/3 since it's not much difference.
And his point mentioned property taxes which you ignored.
Eta: you edited your numbers. Difference using new numbers is 22%. Still a big difference.
WOW! Tell your boss to cut your pay by 1/3 since it's not much difference.
And his point mentioned property taxes which you ignored.
Eta: you edited your numbers. Difference using new numbers is 22%. Still a big difference.
This post was edited on 7/15/14 at 10:48 am
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:38 am to Sprocket46
Your stats don't pass the smell test. Unless you're excluding the white students who will be forced to attend SG schools rather than their magnet/gifted EBR school along with the massive return of white private school students according to the SG supporters claims.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:40 am to LSURussian
Exactly. I would also be interested to see the difference in cost of living. I would imagine Sandy Springs to be more expensive, but I could be wrong. Another important thing to note is that due to Louisiana's unique geology, roads and underground utilities are more expensive to build here. So, St. George has a larger population, lower taxes, lower average household income, and fewer large companies and you still think that St. George will be sustainable and successful without tax increases?
It simply isn't feasible without tax increases.
It simply isn't feasible without tax increases.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:40 am to Sprocket46
they've got my signature.....sign up people!!
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:46 am to Layabout
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I suspect a lot of the people who signed initially are having second thoughts about it.
bullshite. They'll get the required sig and it goes to the ballot...then, it wins. It's really that simple. It will happen...watch.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:47 am to LSURussian
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Your stats don't pass the smell test.
Take it up with the census. The white population in St.George is old.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:49 am to Sprocket46
You're making stats up.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:53 am to kingbob
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So, St. George has a larger population, lower taxes, lower average household income, and fewer large companies
Lower taxes than who?
If you're going to go as far as analyzing the cost of road building and maintenance, then there are 1000 other factors you must also analyze. For one, BR has a high government worker to resident ratio. It will be easy to reduce that.
At the end of the day, there is an element of unknown, but for all the money the opposition has spent, none of it has been able to discredit the financial information in the proposed budget. They spent $75k to send out a mailer about Bubba Plauche's poor magnet kids. Had they actually had financial data to support the claim that taxes would increase then people would withdraw their signatures by the thousands. Fortunately for st.George, BR can't argue that St.George will make them poor, and simultaneously argue that St.George won't have enough money either. You can't argue it both ways.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:54 am to LSURussian
Thats hilarious coming from you.
Your gems:
38 million
9+2-2=11
Bodi White withdrew his bill
The annexation is a done deal
Rainey is getting paid
$100k raised
Signatures for 2 years
No SG paperwork filed
Your gems:
38 million
9+2-2=11
Bodi White withdrew his bill
The annexation is a done deal
Rainey is getting paid
$100k raised
Signatures for 2 years
No SG paperwork filed
This post was edited on 7/15/14 at 10:55 am
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:54 am to Golfer
I don't understand why every resident of unincorporated East Baton Rouge Parish, as well as the residents of Baker, Central and Zachary, is not upset by these annexations. The City of Baton Rouge is telling those people, we are more deserving of the money generated by these properties than you. The money will now be dedicated to services for residents of the City of Baton Rouge instead of being available for services provided to all residents of East Baton Rouge Parish.
What this issue has done is expose the fact that the Baton Rouge Metro Council places the City of Baton Rouge ahead of East Baton Rouge Parish in its priorities. They don't want more people, just more money for the selected people and less for outsiders.
What this issue has done is expose the fact that the Baton Rouge Metro Council places the City of Baton Rouge ahead of East Baton Rouge Parish in its priorities. They don't want more people, just more money for the selected people and less for outsiders.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:57 am to Sprocket46
It amuses me that we are going to portray a community that's barely 70% white with an average household income of around $90,000 as a bunch of racists and elitists.
The financial burden of paying private school tuition for 2 or more kids on a $90,000 income is very steep. Where I grew up was even worse than that. It's incredibly challenging to recruit companies from outside of the region to an area like that. At least property taxes in SoLa are low.
It always shocks me how middle income and even lower income families somehow get their kids into private school in SoLa and pay that tuition. It's almost like they are okay with it. I'm not sure if this is an alumni loyalty thing or a Catholic thing.....but it's not like that everywhere. Public schools in some places are actually acceptable and even desirable.
The financial burden of paying private school tuition for 2 or more kids on a $90,000 income is very steep. Where I grew up was even worse than that. It's incredibly challenging to recruit companies from outside of the region to an area like that. At least property taxes in SoLa are low.
It always shocks me how middle income and even lower income families somehow get their kids into private school in SoLa and pay that tuition. It's almost like they are okay with it. I'm not sure if this is an alumni loyalty thing or a Catholic thing.....but it's not like that everywhere. Public schools in some places are actually acceptable and even desirable.
This post was edited on 7/15/14 at 11:13 am
Posted on 7/15/14 at 11:01 am to Sprocket46
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Lower taxes than who?
Both Sandy Springs and Central
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For one, BR has a high government worker to resident ratio. It will be easy to reduce that
Agreed, this will certainly work in their favor.
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BR can't argue that St.George will make them poor, and simultaneously argue that St.George won't have enough money either.
These things aren't mutually exclusive. Are the negative impacts to BR exaggerated? Certainly. However, diverting money from one group to another is bound to hurt the other group even if it's not enough money for that other group to accomplish everything it wants.
I think St. George is a good idea, but unlike what the organizers have been promising, it cannot be successfully implemented without the residents paying more taxes than they are now.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 11:02 am to dewster
Exactly. And all of the young families that bail and move to ascension/Livingston/central/Zachary aren't racist, but god forbid people in st.George incorporate for better schools, and suddenly we are the KKK. St.George will happen. Some people just can't accept it.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 11:06 am to Sprocket46
something needs to happen to the school system.
even if st george happens and they get the schools they want, my kids will not go to them. the leaders would have to prove to me they know what they are doing
even if st george happens and they get the schools they want, my kids will not go to them. the leaders would have to prove to me they know what they are doing
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