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re: Jindal wants Louisiana out of Common Core

Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:44 pm to
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Over 80 PERCENT Of New York Residents Say Common Core Is A Disastrous Failure



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Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:45 pm to
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even if the intent of Common Core was to achieve what everyone always bitches about on here--higher standards for education.



like No Child Left Behind?
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:46 pm to
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it is controlled at the federal level


No, it is not. If it were controlled at the federal level, how any states do you think could opt out?

Louisiana has the right to change anything it wants at any time, and just because state competency scores versus other states are aggregated at the federal level doesn't mean it is controlled at the federal level.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:46 pm to
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it is controlled at the federal level


Proof, please. Since you are 100 percent wrong.

It was craated by a group of states and governors, OF WHICH JINDAL WAS ONE. The ONLY involvement that the feds have is that they are encouraging the use of it, via race to the top funds and block grants.

THAT'S IT.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:47 pm to
You know what the problem was with no child left behind? It was federally developed without the input of the states and districts.

Common Core is the exact opposite.
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 1:48 pm
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:47 pm to
Inb4 JindalrabblerabblerabbletaxcreditsrabblerabbleDuckdynasty
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:49 pm to
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The ONLY involvement that the feds have is that they are encouraging the use of it, via race to the top funds and block grants.


It's sort of tough to argue that these types of things have not been coercively utilized by the federal government in the past in many other areas, though.

Nevertheless, what Jindal seems to have done here, surely looks suspect.
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:50 pm to
Race to the Top is bribery. wake the frick up
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 1:52 pm
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:51 pm to
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ever heard of Race to the Top?


You don't even read your own damn thread before responding. He already referenced Race to the Top and its place in Common Core.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:53 pm to
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Race to the Top is bribery. wake the frick up


No, it's motivation, dipshit. What does anyone offer as an incentive for the attainment of certain standards?

Why exactly is the legal drinking age in the states 21? Why do you pay FICA?
Posted by lsugrldej8
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:54 pm to
My daughter was in Kindergarten this past school year. I liked the idea of having higher standards for the kids. She knows the majority of the parts of speech, how to read, write 4-8 sentences on a topic, addition and subtraction tables up to 10 and even some multiplication in there.

The thing that I didn't like about it was the implementation of it. My daughter was introduced to it in Kindergarten so she wasn't taught any differently. These kids that were in 2nd, 3rd, etc. they were having to play catch up and so were the teachers. It seemed like it needed to take 13 years to fully implement and start with the Kindergartners and work their way up.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:55 pm to
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The thing that I didn't like about it was the implementation of it. My daughter was introduced to it in Kindergarten so she wasn't taught any differently. These kids that were in 2nd, 3rd, etc. they were having to play catch up and so were the teachers. It seemed like it needed to take 13 years to fully implement and start with the Kindergartners and work their way up.


Solid argument.
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:56 pm to
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No, it's motivation, dipshit


who's doing the motivating and why are only states using common core getting this federal money?
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 1:58 pm
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:57 pm to
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The thing that I didn't like about it was the implementation of it. My daughter was introduced to it in Kindergarten so she wasn't taught any differently. These kids that were in 2nd, 3rd, etc. they were having to play catch up and so were the teachers. It seemed like it needed to take 13 years to fully implement and start with the Kindergartners and work their way up.


I agree with this. It should have been gradually introduced to older kids. My son struggled with it a lot last year, but turned a corner this year. My daughter started kindergarten last year and has done really well with it.


This just shows how powerful a few wingnuts spreading lies and propaganda can be.
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:58 pm to
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This just shows how powerful a few wingnuts spreading lies and propaganda can be.




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Over 80 PERCENT Of New York Residents Say Common Core Is A Disastrous Failure
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:00 pm to
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a few wingnuts
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New York Residents
I think you may have hurt your argument.....
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
24281 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:00 pm to
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who's doing the motivating and why are only states using common core getting this federal money?


If Common Core stays in place, perhaps in five or ten years, TD posters won't lack the mental faculties to answer silly questions like this.

ETA: Look at the evil federal government supporting a state education initiative.
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 2:01 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:01 pm to
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Over 80 PERCENT Of New York Residents Say Common Core Is A Disastrous Failure


Yeah... cause it turns out their kids aren't smart enough to pass the exams. Oops. That's the thing with higher standards... it's going to take some time to catch up.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
43183 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:01 pm to
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And he did all that because Common Core is the right direction to go, even if people scream because they think it's an Obama indoctrination tool.

I agree completely. I was a math teacher and I was in support of the Common Core Standards - especially the emphasis on mastering the fundamentals and not just memorizing some acronyms.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
24281 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:04 pm to


Common Core is all about application and logic skills, not rote cramming and memory dump for tests.
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