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Father of slain UCSB student blames politicians and NRA

Posted on 5/24/14 at 9:28 pm
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 9:28 pm
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Why did Chris die? Chris died because of craven, irresponsible politicians and the NRA. They talk about gun rights. What about Chris’s right to live? When will this insanity stop? When will enough people say, “Stop this madness!” Too many have died. We should say to ourselves, “Not one more!”



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I feel bad for the guy, but what a time to make a ridiculous political point.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
432118 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 9:33 pm to
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but what a time to make a ridiculous political point.

especially in fricking california, which doesn't exactly have lenient drug laws
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
58153 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 9:34 pm to
quote:

Chris died because of the NRA





This post was edited on 5/24/14 at 9:36 pm
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 9:35 pm to
Is the NRA responsible for the three guys he stabbed to death?
Posted by RockyMtnTide
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Member since Aug 2013
171 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 9:48 pm to
Yo, Martinez - your son died because of YOU. You either pushed for or supported gun control legislation in California or you stood by and did nothing. At the very least you allowed your family to reside in a state where they do not have the freedom to protect themselves thus leaving them exposed to those who aren’t impacted by laws. So YOU martinez kill your own son – deal with it and STFU
Posted by lsuprof
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
502 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 9:50 pm to
This is not atypical for the family members of a person killed by a gun to blame the NRA or gun owners or the lack of gun control, and so one must take what they say with a grain of salt. In these cases the best thing to do is to recognize the unbelievable loss that they are experiencing and that it is natural to lash out. I pray that the family members of the victims find peace and can recover from this terrible tragedy.
Posted by L.A.
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Member since Aug 2003
62283 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 10:02 pm to
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Why did Chris die? Chris died because of craven, irresponsible politicians and the NRA. They talk about gun rights. What about Chris’s right to live? When will this insanity stop? When will enough people say, “Stop this madness!” Too many have died. We should say to ourselves, “Not one more!”
We just got some insight into this kid's upbringing.

ETA: I thought Chris was the shooter. My mistake. Chris was one of the victims.
This post was edited on 5/24/14 at 11:00 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
70812 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 10:34 pm to
Can't the same be said for automobiles and alcohol? Let's make both illegal because those deaths far outnumber gun murders in the US.
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
9380 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:12 pm to
quote:

What about Chris’s right to live? When will this insanity stop? When will enough people say, “Stop this madness!” Too many have died. We should say to ourselves, “Not one more!”



Sounds like it's time to use the heated emotion right now to try and make a rash and irresponsible decision.

Im tired of seeing this stuff. I understand that this man is grieving but he should not do something as irresponsible as making it into a political marching point like this.



Oh and..



quote:

What about Chris’s right to live?



Nope.
Posted by 2close2Gainesville
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Member since Sep 2008
4795 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:39 pm to
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I feel bad for the guy, but what a time to make a ridiculous political point.


Awful, but this always comes up when something like this happens. Using murders for political gain is absolutely disgusting.

I'm positive they are being coerced, in one way or another, to say these things. And yes, that shite happens a lot but there is such strong biased media coverage pushing these issues but refuse to acknowledge other shortcomings, init.

And we'll just wait for the next one, and repeat. Every one chipping away a little bit at our freedom, to think, speak, act, live.

This is not just a party specific problem, it is on both sides, to control every fricking thing, at the end of the day, they are all on the same side.


End of rant

tl:dr version, never let a tragedy go to waste
Posted by TigerLicks
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2003
11550 posts
Posted on 5/25/14 at 12:12 am to
Blame the NRA, but not the privileged little shite's Hollywood parents that bought him everything he wanted apparently, including a Beemer. I wonder who ultimately paid for the legal multiple guns he purchased.

Maybe they should've spent that money on psychiatry.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/25/14 at 12:15 am to
So which organization is to blame for the three killed by knife?
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 5/25/14 at 1:35 am to
quote:

I feel bad for the guy, but what a time to make a ridiculous political point.


The man is in grief and sadness. I honestly don't believe he is thinking politics right now. He is sad, angry and wants to rage against something but the real villian is already beyond his reproach.

Not saying he is at all right, just that I empathize with his pain.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
63572 posts
Posted on 5/25/14 at 7:43 am to
quote:

I feel bad for the guy, but what a time to make a ridiculous political point.


Probably is feeling a lot of personal blame, and wants to off-load it...Also plays into the Hollywood liberal mindset, a win-win for his ego.
Posted by Holden Caulfield
Hanging with J.D.
Member since May 2008
8308 posts
Posted on 5/25/14 at 8:34 am to
quote:

but what a time to make a ridiculous political point

I'm willing to give a father who just lost his son a pass on the hysterics. I can't imagine the grief this man must be feeling right now.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Member since Jan 2012
80806 posts
Posted on 5/25/14 at 9:16 am to
My cousin is a Director there at UCSB with only 2 months on the job. Terrible tragedy, but blaming the NRA is ludicrous as if somehow the NRA pulled the trigger.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
59501 posts
Posted on 5/25/14 at 10:10 am to
More people die in car accidents. Should cars be banned as well?
And more die from drug overdoses than both. People can't be protected from life.
This post was edited on 5/25/14 at 10:24 am
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46631 posts
Posted on 5/25/14 at 12:35 pm to
This is a father lashing out in unspeakable grief. I refuse to condemn him or his comments because in his situation I cant imagine what I would do or say, no matter how illogical.

Cut the guy some slack, his college age son was just shot to death.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 7:13 am to
The lack of empathy just on the first page of this thread is astonishing.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 9:42 am to
Wasn't his dad the assistant director in the movie "Hunger Games"? So a guy working on a movie promoting killing for sport is mad at the NRA because his son watched and played violent movies and video games. Way to blame other people for your son being a violent weirdo.
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