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re: Rick Jones stepping down at Tulane

Posted on 5/24/14 at 10:08 am to
Posted by D011ahbi11
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 10:08 am to
Tulane hasn't had a lack of arms, the problem has been hitting.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 10:11 am to
quote:

@ScottDKushner: "The bottom line is it was from stress...It manifested itself in waking up at 4 a.m. with panic attacks because I was worried. "I was worried about where our program was going. It was anxiety and it was panic." - Rick Jones



You see what you did, Tulane players? Your shittiness gives people panic attacks. SMH
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6106 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 10:39 am to
quote:

As for Dunn....it might be better to be e pitching coach at LSU. Than the HC at Tulane nowadays.....


It doesn't matter who the coach is if they can't get enough arms in school..
Please.
The challenge is dealing with the tuition. Figure that out and you have a top facility, academics (negative in football; a positive in baseball), recruiting territory, and good attendance too. It's a damn good job.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19491 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 10:45 am to
Dunn is a former bama player & when they finally get SEC level facilities, the administration mite get tired of being average & bring in a new coach to go with the new stadium.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30874 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 11:20 am to
Over brook that's what I mean. No more UC and fewer legislative waivers. Make it tough
Posted by kfizzle85
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Posted on 5/24/14 at 2:49 pm to
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Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30874 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 3:22 pm to
Katrina closed UC


That is why it hurt
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19491 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 7:16 pm to
"The biggest ego...". Which is why he wore that sock in his uniform crotch that season. Not sure if I've ever seen a coach so mad or embarrassed as Jones was every time he left the dugout & the LSU fans unloaded on him for it.
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
25935 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 7:47 pm to
For anyone who wants to know the deep down issues on Tulane's recent woes, read this thread

LINK
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30874 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 8:11 pm to
UVA that is good stuff but the UC was a cheap alternative for baseball players and it was heavily used...
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 5/25/14 at 1:58 am to
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I don't know if he forgot how to recruit, or what. I know it's difficult with the academic standards at Tulane and the limited scholarships, but its shocking how bad they've become.


Getting into Tulane as a baseball player is incredibly easy.

As far as the limited scholarships, Jones had a huge advantage, i.e., the Tulane legislative scholarships. He's used them to recruit for years. Last year he had 7-8 players on legislative scholarships. Think about what an advantage that is.

in short, he had no excuses.
Posted by D011ahbi11
Member since Jun 2007
13633 posts
Posted on 5/25/14 at 2:46 am to
Got to have a 28 on the ACT for a legislative scholarship and I don't think you know what you're talking about saying its easy to get into Tulane for baseball players. Not to mention even plenty of kids that can get in can't afford it.
This post was edited on 5/25/14 at 2:49 am
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 5/25/14 at 2:57 am to
Not, if you're a baseball player. And trust me you don't know what the f*** you're talking about.
Posted by D011ahbi11
Member since Jun 2007
13633 posts
Posted on 5/25/14 at 3:02 am to
Link?
I'm almost positive even the baseball players have to and they have to maintain a 2.5 GPA as well.


Tulane has 2 players on it this year LINK

You know what there is a loophole in the 28 on the ACT, but they do have to be top 25% of there class. That's much less difficult. However, you're still failing to see that most people can't afford Tulane and baseball scholarships don't always cover that much.
This post was edited on 5/25/14 at 3:17 am
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6106 posts
Posted on 5/25/14 at 9:35 am to
They have to figure something out. Rice is in a city with 5x the population and probably 10x the number of upper middle class families that can afford tuition. Miami is about 5x the size and has a lot of minority scholarship programs that can help. Vandy recruits all over the east. I suspect all of them have some schollie program that they can tilt to baseball, as the need arises. TU needs one of those, if they don't already have one (the legies are under high scrutiny now).
Jones made a lot of mistakes. His staff was too insular - he should have moved out guys like Sutter and have them get experience elsewhere and if he wanted ex players, make sure they had worked at other places. He way overreacted to losing his 2008 class to the draft (kind of like certain football coaches who lost their top recruits at the wire, so the next year they decided to get commits from recruits who weren't getting recruiting pressure). We don't nationally recruit like we used to - don't know if it's just his lack of energy or we cut his budget. And the team just wasn't well coached at the end: a lot of clowning on defense and on the basepaths.
This post was edited on 5/25/14 at 10:05 am
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30874 posts
Posted on 5/25/14 at 10:04 am to
Mmauler legislative schollies were cut back for baseball


And for all you guys that think you know what you are talking about...


The university college system and its much cheaper tuition was a much much more economical way to get baseball players into school.


At least 5 players from the 05 team were part of the uc

And those of you that know so much.....which sport at Tulane is a revenue sport?
This post was edited on 5/25/14 at 10:07 am
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6106 posts
Posted on 5/25/14 at 4:31 pm to
Revenue as defined as Revenue > Expenses? At the moment? None. Football might be soon; baseball was for a long time.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 5/25/14 at 5:48 pm to
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Mmauler legislative schollies were cut back for baseba


The Times Picayune article last year said that there were either 7 or 8 players (I can't remember which, but I believe it was eight) on legislative scholarships. They even quoted two legislators who admitted giving their legislature scholarships to the Tulane baseball program for years.

And I've known players on these legislature scholarships through the years, and trust me they didn't make anything near 28 on their ACT. More like 20.
Posted by D011ahbi11
Member since Jun 2007
13633 posts
Posted on 5/25/14 at 5:59 pm to
2 players on this years team on legislative scholarship, I just linked a list of the recipients.
They did have 6 or 7 a year ago, but Most guys who receive it are very smart guys and not highly recruited. Brandon Boudreaux and Brennan Middleton from a year ago are exceptions to the not highly recruited part of that. Boudreaux had a 3.89 GPA at Tulane, no idea what his ACT was but I bet close to that 28.

Give us some names of the guys you knew on legislative scholarship.

These are the guidelines for everyone [quote]LINK ]

If Tulane can give it to any baseball player why are they only using 2 this year and for 2 kids that don't play? Kind of pokes a hole in your argument.
This post was edited on 5/25/14 at 6:07 pm
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
20936 posts
Posted on 5/25/14 at 6:09 pm to
[quote]He helped transform Tulane from a very good program under Joe Brockhoff, to a team that was often nationally ranked and twice went to Omaha.

But in the last 3-5 years, the program is actually worse than it was when he took over. I don't know if he forgot how to recruit, or what. I know it's difficult with the academic standards at Tulane and the limited scholarships, but its shocking how bad they've become.

Feel bad for Jones and Tulane, but without consistency this was overdue. You like at teams like Rice than also have high academic standards, and doesn't seem to be a problem for them, Tulane should expect the same.
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