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re: Oregon gay marriage ban struck down yesterday, Pennsylvania's today

Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:13 pm to
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:13 pm to
So i am a mindless hick because I believe being gay is wrong?
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Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
25125 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:15 pm to
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I mean really what do queers expect to accomplish? This won't make people accept them.


Not the point of any of this

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This will never change peoples minds. I know it won't change mine. I think its sick and a crime against nature.


That's your right; it's protected by our constitution. Doesn't mean I agree with you, but that's what makes this country great.

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Nope not at all, if thats what you want to do have at it. In no way shape or form does it devalue you as a human IMO. But I don't like it and never will. No piece of paper will ever make people accept homsexuals.


The tide is turning on acceptance of gays, but again, our struggle for a union of equal footing as marriage has absolutely nothing with my desire to be "accepted" by strangers (not you, just generally speaking).
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80548 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:16 pm to
What's wrong about it?

It's the icky buttsex, isn't it?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
110018 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:17 pm to
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So i am a mindless hick because I believe being gay is wrong?


Something tells me you'd have a bigger problem with having a gay preacher rather than one who cheated on his wife and repented.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23385 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:17 pm to
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I agree they don't want history to judge them unkindly (who does?) . Arkansas's AG has admitted as much. I'm curious as to why you call them "cowards" though.


Question for you, if the first portion of your statement is true, doesn't it invalidate their rulings to anyone attempting to be even the slightest bit honest.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
35043 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:18 pm to
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There's no need for this now obviously


No need for the people to speak when a judge can do it for them, amirite?
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:20 pm to
You're a funny guy, Toddy. 20,000 posts, and nobody here has a clue what your second most important issue is
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
25125 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:20 pm to
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So i am a mindless hick because I believe being gay is wrong?


No, it just means you feel differently about something that still divides the country. I don't mind people who disagree with me. That's fine. But there's no reason to be hateful about it (you haven't been, just commenting on a lot of people who are).

I have a very, very bigoted uncle (knowing I'm gay) said to me a few years ago, "Ya know, I don't agree with homosexuals. Truthfully, it makes me want to puke. But you live your life as you want, and I'll do the same. I don't like gay marriage, so I won't have one, but you do what you want."
Posted by Socratics
Virginia Beach
Member since Dec 2013
2477 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:21 pm to
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What needs to happen is that the government should just get away from recongnizing any forms of marriage or unions. Just treat ever human as a individual. I mean really what do queers expect to accomplish? This won't make people accept them. This will never change peoples minds. I know it won't change mine. I think its sick and a crime against nature. Now does this mean I hate gays? Nope not at all, if thats what you want to do have at it. In no way shape or form does it devalue you as a human IMO. But I don't like it and never will. No piece of paper will ever make people accept homsexuals.


The government can't get out of marriage because their are many functions that require it.
Posted by MagicCityBlazer
Member since Nov 2010
3686 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:22 pm to
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States aren't being forced to recognize first cousin marriages.

That means "persecuting" Alabama fans is constitutional but "persecuting" same sex couples is bigotry


Has nothing to do with the religiously based opposition to gay marriage.

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The government can't get out of marriage because their are many functions that require it.





Because society would collapse without cops beating up homeless people or jailing cheech and chong.
This post was edited on 5/20/14 at 9:23 pm
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45335 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:23 pm to


I could have a civil conversation with you. You may not not agree
with but you respect my right to my opinion. My opinion is based upon my Christian beliefs. If someone wants to live that lifestyle thats on them. If someone wants to call me a mindless hick because I refuse change my beliefs to make them happy thats fine.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45335 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:28 pm to
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Something tells me you'd have a bigger problem with having a gay preacher rather than one who cheated on his wife and repented.


You really shouldn't assume things, you don't know anything about me
Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
11082 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:29 pm to
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America is in great decline, morally and otherwise.



OMG, they said that about rock and roll too.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
25125 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:29 pm to
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Ponchy Tiger


I'm a Catholic, Gay, Republican...talk about a conundrum of beliefs, but I'm pretty open with my beliefs on issues. Pretty much my mantra is, "Be nice or leave."

Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:30 pm to
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I mean really what do queers expect to accomplish? This won't make people accept them. This will never change peoples minds. I know it won't change mine. I think its sick and a crime against nature. Now does this mean I hate gays? Nope not at all, if thats what you want to do have at it. In no way shape or form does it devalue you as a human IMO. But I don't like it and never will. No piece of paper will ever make people accept homsexuals.


This bigoted part of your post completely invalidates your first few reasonable sentences.

Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
35043 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:30 pm to
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they said that about rock and roll too.


Yeah, they did. A lot of what they said turned out to be correct.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:31 pm to
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Something tells me you'd have a bigger problem with having a gay preacher rather than one who cheated on his wife and repented.




It would say a lot about them wouldn't it?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
110018 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:38 pm to
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You really shouldn't assume things, you don't know anything about me



The fact that you didn't go for the gay preacher tells me a lot about you actually.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:43 pm to
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Something tells me you'd have a bigger problem with having a gay preacher rather than one who cheated on his wife and repented.


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You really shouldn't assume things, you don't know anything about me


It's hilarious how you're squirming here.
Posted by Socratics
Virginia Beach
Member since Dec 2013
2477 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 9:49 pm to
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Because society would collapse without cops beating up homeless people or jailing cheech and chong.


Society would not collapse by allowing Gay Marriage either. It is possible for the government to get out of marriage but thats a way taller mountain to climb than Gay marriage. That would basically make marriage have about as much meaning as a "friendship" as far as the government is concerned, which would take away special rights away from people who are married. I don't think their are many judges or politicians who have the will to do that.

Simply saying the government should get out of marriage will just never happen even, If I don't personally have a problem with it. Thats kinda what this debate really boils down too.

Why can't a Gay Married couple with adopted kids have the same Tax breaks (rights) as a straight couple with kids?

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