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re: Co-Founder of Firefox forced out for views on Gay Marriage

Posted on 4/4/14 at 10:19 am to
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 10:19 am to
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This as posted yesterday but for some reason admin deleted the thread



The gays on this board and their hags got mad cause I used "the f word" lolz
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263331 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 10:20 am to
Tolerance is only as relavent as the person defining it.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 10:21 am to
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Being counter culture in any way shape or form was a recipe for harassment not too long ago. If you were going to succeed in business or politics, you needed to be straight and god fearing, not to mention a white male.

Its in our lifetimes that it was common for gays to fear coming out at as gay for the retribution they would feel from their friends, family and workplace.

this is a good point

that said, what happened to Eich doesn't mean that the situation is any better IMV. it shows that the pendulum may have swung too far too fast in the other direction, at least in this industry
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 10:25 am to
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that said, what happened to Eich doesn't mean that the situation is any better IMV. it shows that the pendulum may have swung too far too fast in the other direction, at least in this industry

Do you work in tech? tech is strange beast. its a workplace that is pseudo libertarian, and its unique in that overall unemployment rate is very low, low single digits.

I would prefer a world where we celebrate diversity, like really celebrate it. But I don't see that happening anytime soon.
Posted by DCRebel
An office somewhere
Member since Aug 2009
17644 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 10:27 am to
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Ya' gotta love the tolerant Left.



I thought y'all were all about market forces?
Posted by DCRebel
An office somewhere
Member since Aug 2009
17644 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 10:29 am to
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Looks like the left supports the idea that someone should lose their job for having an opinion.



If that opinion puts the company at risk, then sure, why not?

Again, why are y'all against letting market forces do their thing? He isn't entitled to a job with Firefox.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 10:32 am to
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Do you work in tech?

nah, although i do statistical work and deal with comp sci types pretty often
quote:

I would prefer a world where we celebrate diversity, like really celebrate it.

agree. i don't know whether we ever truly had this ideal, or even understood it sadly
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 10:35 am to
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I would prefer a world where we celebrate diversity, like really celebrate it. But I don't see that happening anytime soon.


frankly I don't see any inherent advantage to "diversity" outside of diversity of thought and experience. A business is much better off with the best team possible, regardless of what the staff looks like, who they sleep with, what god(s) they believe in or don't believe in, etc.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101996 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 10:37 am to
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I would prefer a world where we celebrate diversity, like really celebrate it. But I don't see that happening anytime soon.


Personally, I would rather one where people are simply judged on their merits and possibly some consideration as to how they interact with others, without having to live in fear of potential thought police gotchas around every corner.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61457 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 10:40 am to
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The nation’s full-time gay-rights professionals simply will not rest until a homogeneous and stultifying monoculture is settled upon the land, and if that means deploying a ridiculous lynch mob to pronounce anathema upon a California technology executive for private views acted on in his private life, then so be it. The gay agenda of the moment is, ironically enough, to force nonconformists into the metaphorical closet

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Unless, that is, you’re the anti-gay-marriage candidate that all the pro-gay-marriage people voted for in 2008, in which case you get a pass, apparently on the theory that everybody assumed you were being willfully dishonest for political reasons. (That assumption provides a relatively rare point of agreement between homosexual activists and the editors of this magazine.) There simply is to be no disagreement, no dissent, and no tolerance for other points of view.

Every now and then someone in the media speaks the truth.

Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 10:53 am to
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frankly I don't see any inherent advantage to "diversity" outside of diversity of thought and experience. A business is much better off with the best team possible, regardless of what the staff looks like, who they sleep with, what god(s) they believe in or don't believe in, etc.

I would agree the diversity that is best is thought and experience, but generally if you look or are different, your experience and thought process will be different. Not always but its reasonable in my experience.

Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
80378 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 11:01 am to
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You want them to be tolerant of intolerance?


Intolerance of intolerance is still intolerance, numbnuts.
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 11:08 am to
The second quote is spot on in spades. Those are what the likes of Toddys United seek while speaking BS about they only want the right to marriage. When they are turned away by an election of the people they immediately run to the court systems for redress. A decision of one or a group of up to ten judges make the law in black robes to be followed by all.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 11:10 am to
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I thought y'all were all about market forces?


You really think terrorism is part of the market force?

Let's just imagine for a second if those on the right terrorized corporations and got people fired because they donated to a pro-gay marriage group.
This post was edited on 4/4/14 at 11:11 am
Posted by DCRebel
An office somewhere
Member since Aug 2009
17644 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 11:15 am to
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You really think terrorism is part of the market force?



Well I guess some could argue that terrorism or terrorist views are a part of the market or are the result of market forces.

Not sure how that's relevant here, however.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
11105 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 11:29 am to
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But let's not pretend that we are exiting that world NOW. We were never in it.

People are just pointing out the irony in that those who were previously oppressed by that world NOW oppress others in the same manner. It's the hypocrisy that is so nauseating. Otherwise I really dont give a shite about some (x)illionaire quitting his job.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263331 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 11:32 am to
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Again, why are y'all against letting market forces do their thing? He isn't entitled to a job with Firefox.


All of a sudden, you are for "market forces????

Why is bashing Mozilla for this claiming we are against market forces? They have every right to do it, but people have every right to protest their action.

Are you against market forces?
Posted by MJM
Member since Aug 2007
2485 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 11:37 am to
I would say that repubs could boycott firefox but I have a feeling that most repubs are internet explorer users with AOL email addresses.
Posted by SDTiger15
lost in Cali
Member since Jan 2005
11386 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 11:38 am to
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I would say that repubs could boycott firefox but I have a feeling that most repubs are internet explorer users with AOL email addresses.



Brilliantly insightful addition to the discussion.
Posted by MJM
Member since Aug 2007
2485 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 11:40 am to
Thanks, I thought so too
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