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Cooks/Beckham vs. Benjamin/Robinson/Matthews
Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:41 am
Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:41 am
The smaller dynamic threat type or a bigger bodied WR? Let's talk team need/outlook and not just rate the potential draftee WRs...
Stills led the NFL with 20 yards per catch. He'll be 22 in a few weeks and is under contract through 2016.
Colston has been the go-to big WR for 8 seasons. The convergence of these two numbers make him a possible cut in 2015 and surely won't see 2016 with this contract.
Age-Yards Per Game-Cap Hit-Dead Money
28 81.6 .. n/a n/a
29 72.1 .. $3.3m .....0
30 62.9 .. $4.5m ... $14.6m
31 (2014) $8.3 ...... $10.1m
32 (2015) $9.7m ... $5.4m
33 (2016) $10.5m . $2.7
Colston replacement is needed sooner more than later. We can throw some long balls to Stills and Morgan. Toon fits the mold but it looked like he was benched last year (not active after game 10). I'll hope for him as long as he is on the roster. It looks like more of that than any expectation at this point.
Stills led the NFL with 20 yards per catch. He'll be 22 in a few weeks and is under contract through 2016.
Colston has been the go-to big WR for 8 seasons. The convergence of these two numbers make him a possible cut in 2015 and surely won't see 2016 with this contract.
Age-Yards Per Game-Cap Hit-Dead Money
28 81.6 .. n/a n/a
29 72.1 .. $3.3m .....0
30 62.9 .. $4.5m ... $14.6m
31 (2014) $8.3 ...... $10.1m
32 (2015) $9.7m ... $5.4m
33 (2016) $10.5m . $2.7
Colston replacement is needed sooner more than later. We can throw some long balls to Stills and Morgan. Toon fits the mold but it looked like he was benched last year (not active after game 10). I'll hope for him as long as he is on the roster. It looks like more of that than any expectation at this point.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:45 am to blueslover
I'll take Matthews.
Problem is I think there is little chance of him being available at our pick in the 2nd.
Big or small matters not to me. As I've said ad nauseam just get a explosive playmaking homerun hitting S.O.B. for CSP to play with. It will make all the others that much better on offence.
Edit Meant matthews
Problem is I think there is little chance of him being available at our pick in the 2nd.
Big or small matters not to me. As I've said ad nauseam just get a explosive playmaking homerun hitting S.O.B. for CSP to play with. It will make all the others that much better on offence.
Edit Meant matthews
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 9:53 am
Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:48 am to blueslover
Stills and Morgan can stretch the field. What we need is some short area quickness that we lost in Sproles but in a reciever.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:59 am to blueslover
I want a big, physical receiver to match up against defenses like Seattle and the 49ers.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:59 am to blueslover
Matthews is my favorite WR in this draft and #3 for me behind Watkins and Evans.. Cooks is 4.
I want a big-bodied receiver to replace Colston. Matthews fits the mold.. and there is just something to be said about consistency. He is easily the most consistent WR in this draft. Look at what he did over the course of his career at Vandy with complete no-namers at QB. Absolutely consistent. People are all over the balls of Watkins, but he had a HUGE drop in production in his soph year after a stellar freshman campaign.
I am a big fan of consistency vs prospective future ability. It's not the absolute rule for me (for example, Clowney has not been very consistent but his upside is impossible to overlook) but it's a general baseline. It's why I like Aaron Murray as a mid-late round flyer for us. Great consistency.
I would be thrilled if we took Matthews with our first pick. It's not looking likely as the rising of OBJ, Cooks and Benjamin has pushed him into the low-mid 2nd on most mocks. Doubt he falls to our 2nd pick. A lot of people would call it a reach if we took him at #27... But I know what we would be getting. Guy is going to be the best WR from this very deep class when it's all said and done IMO
I want a big-bodied receiver to replace Colston. Matthews fits the mold.. and there is just something to be said about consistency. He is easily the most consistent WR in this draft. Look at what he did over the course of his career at Vandy with complete no-namers at QB. Absolutely consistent. People are all over the balls of Watkins, but he had a HUGE drop in production in his soph year after a stellar freshman campaign.
I am a big fan of consistency vs prospective future ability. It's not the absolute rule for me (for example, Clowney has not been very consistent but his upside is impossible to overlook) but it's a general baseline. It's why I like Aaron Murray as a mid-late round flyer for us. Great consistency.
I would be thrilled if we took Matthews with our first pick. It's not looking likely as the rising of OBJ, Cooks and Benjamin has pushed him into the low-mid 2nd on most mocks. Doubt he falls to our 2nd pick. A lot of people would call it a reach if we took him at #27... But I know what we would be getting. Guy is going to be the best WR from this very deep class when it's all said and done IMO
Posted on 3/19/14 at 11:19 am to blueslover
Matthews or Donte Moncrief in the 2nd would be sweet. I'm a little more intrigued by Moncrief myself....6'2"- 220lbs. and runs a 4.4.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 1:13 pm to blueslover
I have mixed feelings on the WRs in this draft; there's a lot of talent in just about every type of WR...speed burners, Big Target, Possession. I guess it just depends on what direction Payton wants to go in. Unless the damn refs start calling holding on the line by the DB, teams better look like getting Wrs who are physically capable of shedding them. All the speed in the world won't help if they never get off the line of scrimmage.
My gut says we might look at a guy like Brandon Coleman out of Rutgers somewhere later in the draft, if he's there in the 4th or 5th round. Has some issues but he certainly has the size and ability to get off the line and get open.
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Coleman isn't a Senior; he's a junior. Additionally, most draft experts are projecting 4th or 5th round.
My gut says we might look at a guy like Brandon Coleman out of Rutgers somewhere later in the draft, if he's there in the 4th or 5th round. Has some issues but he certainly has the size and ability to get off the line and get open.
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Brandon Coleman, WR, Rutgers
Height: 6-6. Weight: 220.
Projected 40 Time: 4.59.
Projected Round (2014): 2-3
The biggest question about Coleman is if he has enough speed for the NFL. The senior started out this season with nine receptions for 94 yards and two touchdowns against Fresno State. Coleman fell quiet after that, and many believe a preseason knee injury slowed him down all year. He had 33 receptions for 538 yards with four touchdowns in 2013. Coleman decided to enter the 2014 NFL Draft, but he should have returned to Rutgers.
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Coleman isn't a Senior; he's a junior. Additionally, most draft experts are projecting 4th or 5th round.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 2:50 pm to blueslover
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Toon fits the mold but it looked like he was benched last year (not active after game 10). I'll hope for him as long as he is on the roster. It looks like more of that than any expectation at this point.
He drops balls, and I don't think he's the answer.
It will be tough to pass up on Cooks and OBJ, but I think I'm with the majority in taking Matthews. small(er) school guy, might feel like he has more to work for. The more I watch OBJ play, the more I like him, but realistically he's not filling a need. Maybe it's just me.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 4:04 pm to blueslover
I like Benjamin to replace Colston
then Moncrief in the 3rd to stretch the field
then Moncrief in the 3rd to stretch the field
Posted on 3/19/14 at 7:13 pm to blueslover
Catch Rate:
Watkins-77%
Cooks-76%
Landry-74%
Matthew-71%
Evans-69%
ODB- 65%
Benjamin-62%
Moncrief-52%
Watkins-77%
Cooks-76%
Landry-74%
Matthew-71%
Evans-69%
ODB- 65%
Benjamin-62%
Moncrief-52%
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