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re: Spin Off: If minimum wage goes up will you tip less than 20%? ( if you do now)

Posted on 3/13/14 at 9:44 pm to
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24884 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 9:44 pm to
quote:

I probably averaged 20 bucks an hour back in my day, but don't tell uncle sam



From what I have heard this has changed a ton. Certain restaurants dont even have you walking out the door with all of your tips since most are payed with credit card now a days and restaurants dont want all that money on site. They get it on their paychecks.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
64898 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 9:44 pm to
I have the experience too, and I actually had the joy of bringing my check one time to the owner of the restaurant and showing get him I made less than min wage that period. I worked for a great store, so my next check was adjusted. Other than that, I never made less than $12-13/hour (I was a busser when the wage deal happened).
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
17582 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 9:47 pm to
Are food prices going up 20%? Why would I tip less?
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36934 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 9:47 pm to
Damn, must have been a slow couple of weeks.

Yeah, I didn't think of bussers, but we paid them 5.50/hr or at least 4.50.
Posted by Emiliooo
Member since Jun 2013
5148 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 9:48 pm to
quote:

click the link. you are incorrect

You're a dumbass
quote:

An employer of a tipped employee is only required to pay $2.13 an hour in direct wages if that amount plus the tips received equals at least the federal minimum wage... If an employee's tips combined with the employer's direct wages of at least $2.13 an hour do not equal the federal minimum hourly wage, the employer must make up the difference.

Posted by NbamaTiger90
Member since Sep 2012
1752 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 9:52 pm to
I would never change my tipping %. If min wage went to $30 per hour, the % would still be the same. Inflation will adjust according to the min wage. So food cost x % will always be the same.

It's a trap question for dummies that tip from emotion.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
64898 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 9:52 pm to
quote:

Damn, must have been a slow couple of weeks.

Yeah, I didn't think of bussers, but we paid them 5.50/hr or at least 4.50.




For that particular pay period, I worked a few Mondays and a Tuesday, I think. It was slow. And bussers made that 2.13 like everyone else. But not really.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36934 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 9:54 pm to
Damn, yeah I could see how that could happen
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35828 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:01 pm to
Servers already make $10 on the clock here. I've been debating tipping less, but I've still been doing 20%.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36934 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

Servers already make $10 on the clock here. I've been debating tipping less, but I've still been doing 20%.


Say what?

frick opening a restaurant where you live.
Posted by whodidthat
Member since Aug 2011
5896 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:06 pm to
quote:

restaurant workers make $7.25 an hour today.



That's nothing. Most servers only work 3-5 hours per shift, and the job responsibilities are still very taxing on a persons body. It's not an easy job. Not many servers would be willing to work 40 hours a week for 7.25/hour, or even 10 per hour. Which would result in a lot of restaurants shutting down.

quote:

If minimum wage went into the $10 range would you still tip 20%?



If people started tipping less, the employers would have to pay the difference. Then the cost of the food you eat would go up. They would have to make up the difference some way. The ones that wouldn't could be facing bankruptcy shortly after.

If a person doesn't have money to tip. Then they shouldn't go to full service restaurants. Or maybe they should make their own food
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
85652 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:09 pm to
quote:

click the link. you are incorrect


i was a waiter at the end of high school and all through college and i never once heard of a server that made more than 2.13 an hour anywhere.
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28668 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:11 pm to
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i was a waiter at the end of high school and all through college and i never once heard of a server that made more than 2.13 an hour anywhere.


You are required by law to make at least minimum wage. Either your tips add up to equal minimum wage or your employee covers the amount in addition to the 2.13 to make minimum wage.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
64898 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:14 pm to
quote:

was a waiter at the end of high school and all through college and i never once heard of a server that made more than 2.13 an hour anywhere.


Come on man.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17453 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:16 pm to
Are you reading the same link? Why am I a Dumbass?
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17453 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:18 pm to
quote:

Are food prices going up 20%? Why would I tip less?


Is your pay going up 20%?
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36934 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:18 pm to
Dude, he's talking as a former waiter as to direct wages per hour
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30671 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:21 pm to
quote:

From what I have heard this has changed a ton. Certain restaurants dont even have you walking out the door with all of your tips since most are payed with credit card now a days and restaurants dont want all that money on site. They get it on their paychecks.



Exactly.

If its a great or okay waiter, I'll tip the 18-20% minimum in cash. If its a pretty bad waiter, I'll do 15% on card.

The issue is waiters these days also think they're entitled to a tip without working. If is a horrible waiter, I'll honestly walk out adding 0 tip.

Last time, we had 4 people eat at zeas, it wasn't even busy and the girl was serving 3 tables (total of 10 people, 4-4-2). She got our drinks and brought them out we were ready to order, but she said 'give her a moment to get something from the other table'. Fine, no big deal - It happens all the time right? you're thinking 5 minutes. Well, 21 minutes later (yes I actually paid attention) she came back and got the appetizer/entrées. took 30 minutes for the appetizer and when i got it, it was lukewarm, and another 30 minutes after that to get the entrées. Asked for a water refill 3 times, got it none the whole time. Paid with a card, she took 15 minutes to come back with my card. A '1hr' early dinner @ 5pm turned into a 2hr dinner. I left 0, extremely pissed off. She actually chased after me and cursed me out.

The whole time, a whole different waiter in the same area cleared 3-4 tables 3 times.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36934 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:23 pm to
Holy shite.

I've never left nothing but if that happened to me I would have been tempted
Posted by NbamaTiger90
Member since Sep 2012
1752 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:27 pm to
quote:

You are required by law to make at least minimum wage. Either your tips add up to equal minimum wage or your employee covers the amount in addition to the 2.13 to make minimum wage.


This

I have an employee that has never worked a single day. Owners father, has a small salary that i used to turn in as 80 hours so i didn't.have to figure his hours. I would turn in his payroll as 80 hours based off his salary. Did not fly under federal min wage standards.

Hours worked + monies paid must equal federal min wage guidelines.
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