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re: My experience with Executive Orders

Posted on 2/17/14 at 5:56 pm to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 5:56 pm to
EO's have been used for political purposes since the beginning of time. That's just a fact. This boogieman Fox News stuff that some of y'all fall for as often as you do is a big part of the reason a big chunk of the right wing is seen as crazy by the majority of Americans.

If you have an issue with the EO system in general that's fine but Obama isn't doing anything that hasn't been done.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 5:59 pm to
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Obama isn't doing anything that hasn't been done.


right on time.

JEEBUS!!

"they did it, too"

silliness
Posted by ASTL
In a cubicle
Member since Jan 2014
757 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 6:03 pm to
Obama doesn't say it nicely though.

"I will do what I have to, to help the American people and push these policies through"

*rest of sleazy politicians stand up and clap like he is a celebrity*

Trust me Mr President, we don't want anymore of your policies. Obamacare is enough, thanks.
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 6:04 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Member since Sep 2003
125530 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 6:13 pm to
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I served as a Senator for 8 years under Reagan and witnessed a Presidential Executive Order. What we are seeing Obama do is NOT what it was intended to do and is unconstitutional.
quote:

This boogieman Fox News stuff that some of y'all
GOOD GOD ALMIGHTY DS, THAT IS BEYOND PATHETIC!
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
43309 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 6:14 pm to
Executive orders are unconstitutional when Obama uses them.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 6:27 pm to
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This boogieman Fox News stuff that some of y'all fall for as often as you do is a big part of the reason a big chunk of the right wing is seen as crazy by the majority of Americans.


Which is proven by the fact that Fox news is struggling in the ratings.
On the other hand the left wing is so beloved and admired that it's principal mouthpiece, MSNBC is soaring in the ratings.

Posted by Elcid96
Member since May 2010
5465 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 6:33 pm to
You are intentionally misleading the data, the same way the media does. You are a lawyer, there are two kind of crimes misdeamenors and felonies. However both are crimes, so I could mislead people by claiming one person has comitted 5 crimes and one has only comitted 1. The sheeple will jump up and down and claim the man with5 crimes clearly is worse. However as you dig deeper one might find out that the mans 5 crimes were for speeding or trespassing, whereas the other mans crimes was child molestation. Now as a lawyer you will not explain this as such the media doesn't either with EOs. They just post a number and say look, the same thing you did and the sheeple will believe.

Are you attempting to claim that all EO are the same? If not then it is clear the number of them shouldn't really be the main focus!

Do you think any EO would be unconstitutional? If so what would be?
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17452 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 6:57 pm to
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Draconian Sanctions


I can't wait to see you attack the other way in 2 years. Gonna shove all this crap back down your throat. Although I doubt you will be around anyway
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46631 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 7:37 pm to
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Obama isn't doing anything that hasn't been done.


This defense isn't even suitable for a toddler to use, why should we allow politicians to use it?
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
14711 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 7:42 pm to
Can you please point out the unilateral changes Obama made through an Executive Order in this list of Executive Orders?

The whole EO argument is a farce. Obama has made several spontaneous, verbal changes to Obamacare without using an EO. Obama stands at the podium and just wings it - says whatever he thinks will make His followers happy but there's no EO to support what he says.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:42 pm to
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Draconian Sanctions




Posted by EST
Investigating
Member since Oct 2003
17919 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 4:50 am to
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Obama isn't doing anything that hasn't been done.





Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
19546 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 6:59 am to
Why do you fall for the left's he has signed fewer than Bush or Clinton trap?

Do you realize an EO can be ordering post offices to fly a flag at half mast?

Do you really think a simple tick mark in one column versus another makes sense?

Look at the things addressed by each executive's EO and then tell me what this guy is doing is harmless.


The boogieman of Fox is not what you should be falling for. Just examine the actual content of the EOs.

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