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Archaeologist Carbon-Date Camel Bones, Discover Major Discrepancy In Bible Story
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:11 am
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:11 am
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Researchers Lidar Sapir-Hen and Erez Ben-Yosef from Tel Aviv University have discovered what may be a discrepancy in the history laid out in the Bible.
Using carbon-dating to determine the age of the oldest-known camel bones, the researchers determined that camels were first introduced to Israel around the 9th century BCE.
The Hebrew Bible, or Old Testament refers to camels as pack animals as early as the story of Abraham. Though there is no archaeological evidence of Abraham's life, many in the religious and scientific communities, including Chabad and the Associates For Biblical Research, cite the 20th century BCE as his time of birth. If the new evidence is correct, however, this suggests discrepancies between the Bible and human history as explained by science.
The researchers scoured ancient copper production sites in the Aravah Valley, where camel bones were only present in sites active in the last third of the 10 century and the 9th century BCE. Sapir-Hen and Ben-Yosef write in their report:
"[The camel bones] demonstrate a sudden appearance of camels at the site, following a major change in the organization of production in the entire region."
This suggests that camels were introduced to the region abruptly, perhaps by Egyptians along Mediterranean trade routes.
Dr. Robert Harris, an Associate Professor at the Jewish Theological Seminary, says this shouldn't come as a shock to the theological community.
“While these findings may have been published recently, those of us on the inside have known the essential facts for a generation now," Harris conveyed to HuffPost Religion through associates at JTS. "This is just one of many anachronisms in the Bible, but these do not detract from its sanctity, because it is a spiritual source, not a historical one.”
Biblical archaeology is understandably an imperfect science. Archaeologist William Dever explained in an interview with PBS several years ago:
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We want to make the Bible history. Many people think it has to be history or nothing. But there is no word for history in the Hebrew Bible. In other words, what did the biblical writers think they were doing? Writing objective history? No. That's a modern discipline. They were telling stories. They wanted you to know what these purported events mean."
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:15 am to JOJO Hammer
They had to use carbon dating to disprove parts of the bible. Watch this: The ark held two of every animal. Can I get a research grant to disprove that. And I would consider myself religious BTW
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:20 am to JOJO Hammer
Where in Genesis did it say Abraham domesticated the first camels? I'm confused.
verse?
verse?
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:21 am to JOJO Hammer
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9th century BCE.
what does BCE refer to?
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cite the 20th century BCE as his time of birth
Just because you haven't found evidence of something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It's like screening for cancer today. Just because a screening comes up negative for cancer doesn't mean you don't have cancer.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:21 am to JOJO Hammer
That's just a trick by the Devil
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:22 am to C
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what does BCE refer to?
Seriously?
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:23 am to JOJO Hammer
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what did the biblical writers think they were doing? Writing objective history? No. That's a modern discipline. They were telling stories. They wanted you to know what these purported events mean.
No one living today can unequivocally say what they were doing back then.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:24 am to JOJO Hammer
I still don't understand the "inaccuracy".
I don't see where they are "pack" animals.
I see where they were herded together as wealth for the families. That's no where close to the same thing, only a dunce in biblical interpretation would come to that conclusion.
That would be like saying dogs were never domesticated because you were a dog breeder.
I don't see where they are "pack" animals.
I see where they were herded together as wealth for the families. That's no where close to the same thing, only a dunce in biblical interpretation would come to that conclusion.
That would be like saying dogs were never domesticated because you were a dog breeder.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:26 am to JOJO Hammer
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"This is just one of many anachronisms in the Bible, but these do not detract from its sanctity, because it is a spiritual source, not a historical one.”
i don't know why people can't understand this.
and im not talking about the "young earth" religious zealots. those people have a 4" thick steel veil over their eyes.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:28 am to SW2SCLA
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what does BCE refer to?
Seriously?
yes I know its a replacement for BC/AD but don't want to look it up.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:32 am to Larry
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The ark held two of every animal.
For some reason I find the idea of two kangaroos on the arc to be one of the funniest things I've ever considered.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:38 am to JOJO Hammer
She told me those bumps were razor burn. I guess that proves she didn't have herpes.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:40 am to Displaced
quote:That's just retarded. Everyone who had ever lived was living in the most common and modern time ever.
Before Common Era
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:44 am to JOJO Hammer
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Using carbon-dating to determine the age of the oldest-known camel bones, the researchers determined that camels were first introduced to Israel around the 9th century BCE.
The Hebrew Bible, or Old Testament refers to camels as pack animals as early as the story of Abraham. Though there is no archaeological evidence of Abraham's life, many in the religious and scientific communities, including Chabad and the Associates For Biblical Research, cite the 20th century BCE as his time of birth.
Germans. Or Hebrews as the case may be. In any event, the camel story is old news. See: Don't Know Much About the Bible by Kenneth C. Davis.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:50 am to Displaced
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"This is just one of many anachronisms in the Bible, but these do not detract from its sanctity, because it is a spiritual source, not a historical one.”
i don't know why people can't understand this.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:58 am to JOJO Hammer
everyone should quit trying to convert everyone else. To either side.
Then it'll just work itself out naturally.
Then it'll just work itself out naturally.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:58 am to JOJO Hammer
So many fails in this thread....
It's a politically correct term which attempts to hide the fact that it's referring to the time before Christ.
The "arc"? Please, read the story before you make such comments.
The Hebrew bible doesn't use the word "camel", the Hebrew bible uses the word "ga^ma^l", meaning a 'load bearing animal'. Why don't these folks who write such articles research such simple things?
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what does BCE refer to?
It's a politically correct term which attempts to hide the fact that it's referring to the time before Christ.
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For some reason I find the idea of two kangaroos on the arc to be one of the funniest things I've ever considered.
The "arc"? Please, read the story before you make such comments.
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The Hebrew Bible, or Old Testament refers to camels as pack animals as early as the story of Abraham. Though there is no archaeological evidence of Abraham's life, many in the religious and scientific communities, including Chabad and the Associates For Biblical Research, cite the 20th century BCE as his time of birth. If the new evidence is correct, however, this suggests discrepancies between the Bible and human history as explained by science.
The Hebrew bible doesn't use the word "camel", the Hebrew bible uses the word "ga^ma^l", meaning a 'load bearing animal'. Why don't these folks who write such articles research such simple things?
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