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re: BOOM, New Climate Data Rigging Scandal Rocks US Govt.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 6:50 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
Posted on 1/27/14 at 6:50 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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Is this person / group legit and respected?
Serious question
No, they're not legit or respected.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 6:50 pm to UL-SabanRival
quote:DAMN!
OM, New Climate Data Rigging Scandal Rocks US Govt.
I almost hope this is not true.
I've realized for several years the CO2 Greenhouse crap was an absolute impossibility.
However, I assumed folks like Spidy were just ignoring the forest for the trees. That alone is an intolerable breech of the scientific method. It's been subject of many discussions here.
If it turns out that the science was certifiably corrupt, it will set any controversial area of science back 50 yrs.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 6:54 pm to Tyrusrex
It's not just the grant money. It's their ability to get published in scientific journals, it's their jobs in academia, it's their prestige. A climatologist to come out as a skeptic of AGW would be like the head of the Southern Baptist Convention coming out of the closet as a gay Muslim. They would lose their credibility, funding, reputation, and career. It's a big deal.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 6:59 pm to UL-SabanRival
I don't have much confidence that much will happen with these new findings. AGWers are true believers and they don't want to be proved wrong or find out that they have been lied to. They need the fairy tale to continue, less their psyche be devastated.
This post was edited on 1/27/14 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 1/27/14 at 7:01 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:
Is this person / group legit and respected?
Google principia-scientific.com.
It's a joke.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 7:02 pm to UL-SabanRival
I want all you deniers to know that you are all stupid for being anti science and wanting to use the world as your own dumping ground. No one with a brain could possibly deny that global warming exists.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 7:06 pm to GumboPot
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They need the ferry tale to continue, less their psyche be devastated.
I love ferry tales.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 7:09 pm to Tyrusrex
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Sorry, but Principia-Scientific, the source of the article, is a journal created solely to discredit climate change. I'm not saying that they right or wrong in this case, but I wouldn't claim victory until a more reputable publications like Scientific American weighs in.
I would like to see that too, but alot of the respected science journals have their head up their arse to take it up.
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nd no I don't believe that 99% of all science climatologists are deliberately fudging their data just so they can get their hands on all them government grant money, when they could make a lot more money taking the opposite position.
Now granted this is just what one guy says, but one of my professors in grad school worked for the EPA for 3 years after he left the military. He said it is all bullshat and that everybody is just after $$$. He plan out said the numbers were fudged. End hijack
However I did google and this source is very biased and not respected or legit.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 7:11 pm to dewster
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I want all you deniers to know that you are all stupid for being anti science and wanting to use the world as your own dumping ground. No one with a brain could possibly deny that global warming exists.
Sarcasm?
Posted on 1/27/14 at 7:28 pm to Layabout
quote:No.
Google principia-scientific.com.
It's a joke.
But I hope in this case they are way off base.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 7:38 pm to Tyrusrex
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a more reputable publications like Scientific American
They are in the tank for GW. They'll never weigh in on shite if it goes against what they push.
The "respected scientific community" is generally pro GW because they can make more money off it if there is a crisis, kind of like oil companies are generally pro drilling.
It's what they do for a living.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 7:45 pm to gthog61
It's not considered "respected" if it does not bolster the AGW "sky is falling" crowd.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 7:48 pm to UL-SabanRival
Here is a direct link to the guy who did the comparison. should be easy to refute if he is wrong. Lays it out very well.
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 7:49 pm to UL-SabanRival
All of the facts, evidence, proof, confessions and whatever else you could name . . . it does not matter because NONE OF THIS will stop the Left's Long March for implementation of national and global climate change initiatives.
The reason is because the purpose of all of the climate change crap is not to attack climate change, but, rather, to redistribute wealth nationally and internationally.
The reason is because the purpose of all of the climate change crap is not to attack climate change, but, rather, to redistribute wealth nationally and internationally.
This post was edited on 1/27/14 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 1/27/14 at 7:56 pm to Champagne
FWIW, I don't think the guy is right. If we was, many legit scientists would be jumping all over this.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 8:01 pm to UL-SabanRival
Yawn. I'm pretty certain that global warming will never be proved nor disproved in my lifetime. But that's not going to stop the "it's real" or "it"s a hoax" crowd from talking out of their asses. The fact is, we don't know.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 8:04 pm to Manky
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Global warming was simply an effort to impose statism on all of humanity.
Ok man.
Van Jones, former Green Jobs czar says that's exactly what it is.
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