re: Heart Surgeon declares "we were wrong" re causes of heart disease

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I'd argue that we'd made carbs and grains the staple of our diets, and meats/fats got blamed unfairly for the resulting health problems.

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You're right.

We only became an agricultural species about 15,000 years ago. For the preceding 180,000 years or so, and the millions more before homo sapien, animal parts (meat, organs, marrow, etc.) were the primary staple of our diets, supplemented with found plants (roots, nuts, fruits, etc.).

I think he's spot on. My Dr. regularly tests me for inflammation and we work to keep it as low as possible. (Mine is indeed elevated)

I realize that they're not for everyone, but many of the docs I'm friends with take them in low doses as a preventative measure.

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5,000 surgeries over a 25 year career? That's 200 per year. A "good" heart surgeon would do 5,000 in 5 to 10 years.

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200 per year is ~.75 per day worked. My dad had open heart surgery and it took from 7am to noon? Plus the dr has to do rounds see patients and diagnose conditions? Doesn't seem all that low to me to be doing 4ish per week?

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200 per year is ~.75 per day worked. My dad had open heart surgery and it took from 7am to noon? Plus the dr has to do rounds see patients and diagnose conditions? Doesn't seem all that low to me to be doing 4ish per week?

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Most pre-op workup and much of the follow-up is done by the Cardiologist; not the cardiac surgeon. The surgeon was not present the entire time during your dad's surgery. A busy surgeon would do 2-4 some days of the week. If my cardiac surgeon was doing 4 per week, I would find another surgeon. Implies to me that he/she isn't very good and not sought out.

This explains how my gf's family all lives to be over 100 while mine all drop dead at 70 from heart disease. In her family, there's a lot of food allergies to stuff like corn, soybeans, gluten, peanuts, sesame seeds, ect. These are the biggest ingredients in processed foods. As a result, her family eats far less of processed foods than mine does. This explains a lot and confirms what I always believed about people who are put on bland, "healthy", diets due to cholesterol. The stress of having to keep to the diet causes more damage than the diet can reverse. The stress and loss of joy from eating what they love kills them.

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We only became an agricultural species about 15,000 years ago. For the preceding 180,000 years or so, and the millions more before homo sapien, animal parts (meat, organs, marrow, etc.) were the primary staple of our diets, supplemented with found plants (roots, nuts

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I understand. We have been hunter gatherers. Like I said. I believe we, like some other primates, are omnivores. Can always squabble over how much meat.

For every paleo or Atkins expert/supporter you can cite I can counter with an Essylstein or MacDougal.

Even vegans will squabble over grains vs fruits and veggies as primary food.

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I realize that they're not for everyone, but many of the docs I'm friends with take them in low doses as a preventative measure.

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As I understand it, the studies show that the group on statins have lower premature death rates (my term . . . can't remember it exactly) from all causes. Kind of amazing.

Pretty much the opposite of what u said. Read your history, we ate fruit first, then meat. We always ate the organs and bone marrow also. We also ate most food raw, which provides much more nutrients.

I encourage everyone to read the Spartan diet.

Meh, in the end it's mostly about genetics as far as I can tell.