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Law School Advice
Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:36 pm
I don't post here, but I saw a discussion the other day about law school that intrigued me. I'm a graduating senior in marketing from lsu, already taken the LSAT, applied, and have been accepted to Tulane, Loyola, Southern Methodist, U of H, and LSU. LSU, Houston, and Loyola have offered me full scholarships, Tulane offered me 25k a year and SMU offered 30k per year.
Could someone with knowledge and experience in this area give me some insight about choosing a school? Is it worth the cost to attend Tulane over Loyola? Does an SMU degree provide me with better options as a common law school instead of civil? I'm really just stressing out and wanted to hear opinions based on facts not just for opinions sake.
Thanks in advance!
Could someone with knowledge and experience in this area give me some insight about choosing a school? Is it worth the cost to attend Tulane over Loyola? Does an SMU degree provide me with better options as a common law school instead of civil? I'm really just stressing out and wanted to hear opinions based on facts not just for opinions sake.
Thanks in advance!
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:40 pm to tigershornets
just factor in the higher cost of living when determining one school over another
Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:42 pm to tigershornets
no offense to my Loyola friends, but if you plan to be on the national market, Tulane is the no-brainer of that crew. If staying in Louisiana, then LSU (unless def practicing in NO, then maybe Loyola).
See no advantage to the texas options.
See no advantage to the texas options.
Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:43 pm to tigershornets
Do you have an area of interest for the practice?
Both Area of Law and Geographically.
I don't have an answer. But, this info might be of interest for those that may.
Good luck (even though I have a generally negative view of you attorney types
)
Both Area of Law and Geographically.
I don't have an answer. But, this info might be of interest for those that may.
Good luck (even though I have a generally negative view of you attorney types
)Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:45 pm to tigershornets
I think it depends on a lot of unknown factors, where do you want to practice after graduation, what do you want to do with your degree, are you a minority, are you a female, if so are you hot, if so are you likely to get pregnant, do you have any legal connections for post graduation employment, etc
Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:46 pm to tigershornets
are you planning on staying in Louisiana or practicing law out of state? Louisiana has a different law system than the rest of the country
Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:52 pm to tigershornets
Sounds like tulane is the place for you. Also, if you could hook a guy up with a river pilot job, i'd kill for that career opportunity.
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:55 pm to tigershornets
Was the OT post not enough?
Posted on 1/22/14 at 5:04 pm to tigershornets
First: Don't go.
Second: If you do go, and you know for a fact that being a lawyer is what you really want to do, go to the best law school you can get into in the region you want to live in.
Third: If you do go, but you're unsure if you want to be a lawyer, go to the best law school you can get into while spending the least amount of money in the region you want to live in.
Fourth: Keep in mind that law school rank is of the utmost importance unless you go to a T14 school (e.g. Columbia, Yale, Harvard, etc.). Therefore, it behooves you to go to a school where you are comfortable and where you believe you can excel and beat the competition.
If I were you, I'd go to U of H. The Houston legal market, while flooded, is still among the best in the nation. U of H is highly respected in Texas and particularly in Houston. You won't go in to crazy debt going to school there (only living expenses) and if you do well, you can end up at a good firm making $160k right out the gate. Trust me when I say that making $160k right out the gate with little to no debt is about the most fantastic feeling on the planet.
If you want to live in Dallas, SMU may be the better choice than U of H, particularly with a scholarship that large. I'm assuming you'll still come out of there about $80k to $90k in debt, though, which should give you some pause.
I would not go to Tulane unless you got in free. That's just me. Certainly not if SMU is cheaper. Tulane has a bit more reach into other markets than some of the schools in the South, but my understanding is that SMU is the same way. If you want to stay in Louisiana, the best school is still probably LSU. Go there, kill it, walk away with no debt and make $95k to $100k immediately at one of the big firms in Louisiana.
Always keep in mind these three things:
(1) cost (debt sucks),
(2) location (where you end up working geographically will largely be dictated where, geographically, you went to school), and
(3) your ability to crush the competition (being in the top 10 at U of H will probably be better than being in the top 10 percent at SMU).
Second: If you do go, and you know for a fact that being a lawyer is what you really want to do, go to the best law school you can get into in the region you want to live in.
Third: If you do go, but you're unsure if you want to be a lawyer, go to the best law school you can get into while spending the least amount of money in the region you want to live in.
Fourth: Keep in mind that law school rank is of the utmost importance unless you go to a T14 school (e.g. Columbia, Yale, Harvard, etc.). Therefore, it behooves you to go to a school where you are comfortable and where you believe you can excel and beat the competition.
If I were you, I'd go to U of H. The Houston legal market, while flooded, is still among the best in the nation. U of H is highly respected in Texas and particularly in Houston. You won't go in to crazy debt going to school there (only living expenses) and if you do well, you can end up at a good firm making $160k right out the gate. Trust me when I say that making $160k right out the gate with little to no debt is about the most fantastic feeling on the planet.
If you want to live in Dallas, SMU may be the better choice than U of H, particularly with a scholarship that large. I'm assuming you'll still come out of there about $80k to $90k in debt, though, which should give you some pause.
I would not go to Tulane unless you got in free. That's just me. Certainly not if SMU is cheaper. Tulane has a bit more reach into other markets than some of the schools in the South, but my understanding is that SMU is the same way. If you want to stay in Louisiana, the best school is still probably LSU. Go there, kill it, walk away with no debt and make $95k to $100k immediately at one of the big firms in Louisiana.
Always keep in mind these three things:
(1) cost (debt sucks),
(2) location (where you end up working geographically will largely be dictated where, geographically, you went to school), and
(3) your ability to crush the competition (being in the top 10 at U of H will probably be better than being in the top 10 percent at SMU).
Posted on 1/22/14 at 5:28 pm to tigershornets
I graduated from LSU and am currently in Houston....you can get to just about anywhere you want if you work hard and have high scores. Appears you may have the ability to do that.
I would skip the Loyola and Tulane. If you're interested in Houston for O&G or I-banking or M&A, etc then I would recommend UH with the full ride. You can do it at LSU too but if you're at UH you'll have more opportunities IMV.
I don't know anything about SMU except that Dallas blows...I did date an SMU cheerleader back in the day though.
I would skip the Loyola and Tulane. If you're interested in Houston for O&G or I-banking or M&A, etc then I would recommend UH with the full ride. You can do it at LSU too but if you're at UH you'll have more opportunities IMV.
I don't know anything about SMU except that Dallas blows...I did date an SMU cheerleader back in the day though.
This post was edited on 1/22/14 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 1/22/14 at 6:54 pm to tigershornets
Great advice from all but coming from someone with friends from all of the law schools listed and as a member of the bar of LA, NV and CA, go to medical school.
I'm serious.
I'm serious.
Posted on 1/22/14 at 8:55 pm to tigershornets
quote:
Could someone with knowledge and experience in this area give me some insight about choosing a school?
DON'T frickING GO.
DON'T frickING GO.
Of the top 25% of the class at Tulane right now, MAYBE half of them have a job.
Let that sink in for a second, if you are one of the top kids (which you statistically aren't) you still are only 50/50 at meaningful employment.
Signed,
Shitlaw for the rest of my life.
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