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Mark Ingram: Revisited
Posted on 12/30/13 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 12/30/13 at 12:41 pm
It's funny how things change.
I was more positive towards Ingram than most, but even I had lost faith in him at the end of the last season.
Our first round running back averaged 3.9 ypc his first two seasons, which looked even worse compared to the other backs on the roster.
But this season, these are how our RB's have rushed:
Sproles 4.2 ypc
Thomas 3.7 ypc
Robinson 4.1 ypc
Ingram 4.9 ypc
Obviously, ypc doesn't tell the whole story.
But it's interesting to see this (Jamaal Charles has 5.0 ypc).
It kills me that Payton keeps yanking him out.
It's like the opposite of past years, when he played Ingram ad nauseam even though we all knew he wouldn't perform.
I was more positive towards Ingram than most, but even I had lost faith in him at the end of the last season.
Our first round running back averaged 3.9 ypc his first two seasons, which looked even worse compared to the other backs on the roster.
But this season, these are how our RB's have rushed:
Sproles 4.2 ypc
Thomas 3.7 ypc
Robinson 4.1 ypc
Ingram 4.9 ypc
Obviously, ypc doesn't tell the whole story.
But it's interesting to see this (Jamaal Charles has 5.0 ypc).
It kills me that Payton keeps yanking him out.
It's like the opposite of past years, when he played Ingram ad nauseam even though we all knew he wouldn't perform.
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 12:48 pm to Hoodoo Man
The problem is the lack of talent in the offensive line. Left tackle and center are problems. In addition, perhaps the line is not well coached or the scheme is flawed. I think that the backs are all decent players.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 12:52 pm to Hoodoo Man
Definitely agree that he was really showing flashes towards the end. Biggest problem is that Payton just will not commit to a running game.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 12:57 pm to Hoodoo Man
Ingram ran with more passion beginning mid season or so and it was noticable.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 1:00 pm to Hoodoo Man
as you said tho ypc does not really tell the whole story. charles at 5 a carry is incredible considering how many touches he gets and teams know he is the offense.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 1:01 pm to Hoodoo Man
He turned it around.
Having said that, I'd take a 4th for him during the offseason.
Having said that, I'd take a 4th for him during the offseason.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 1:08 pm to Hoodoo Man
The problem is getting 5 yards on first down then going to the shotgun and 12 wr sets for tge next eleventy plays. Payton is damn near the second best coach in the nfl but he drives me insane how impatient he is with the running game.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 1:46 pm to Hoodoo Man
I don't think Ingram is the long term answer for the Saints. But give the guy credit. On the few carries he has gotten lately he has been running with effort and passion. I think he has earned a few more carries per game than what he is currenly getting.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 2:39 pm to Hoodoo Man
I hope next year we have a bigger commitment to running the ball. We need to alleviate some of the rush on Brees plus play action is a huge part of our offensive success.
Offensive line needs to get more a push tho
Offensive line needs to get more a push tho
Posted on 12/30/13 at 7:21 pm to Hoodoo Man
The problem for Ingram is that we have 3 solid RBs and they all have to split time. Ingram is the worst pass catcher out of the group so that means he's going to get the least amount of PT. His running style also doesn't fit our scheme. I do get a little frustrated when he puts together a few good runs and Payton pulls him out. I think Ingram has what it takes to be a good RB in the NFL he's just in the wrong system
Posted on 12/31/13 at 6:24 pm to Hoodoo Man
I was never an Ingram fan but I think he clearly earned more carries than he received this season, especially the back half of the season. Dude was running like he was mad and i liked it.
This post was edited on 12/31/13 at 6:25 pm
Posted on 12/31/13 at 9:30 pm to Hoodoo Man
Biggest problem is a back like Ingram needs 15-20 carries per game to have a chance to prove himself. He never got that on a consistent basis. I don't really understand why Payton drafted him if he wasn't going to use him in that manner.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 12:57 am to Hoodoo Man
Just dont trade him to the Bucs
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:40 am to Hoodoo Man
MI goes down faster then Tulane Ave lady.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:24 pm to Hoodoo Man
Bigger ? why is he at the game instead of getting ready for philly.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:25 pm to Hoodoo Man
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