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re: They went thataway, so let's go thisaway: the TV Western thread

Posted on 12/25/18 at 3:21 am to
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 12/25/18 at 3:21 am to
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One of the aims of this thread is to help revive interest among later generation

Yet no Chuck connors as The Rifleman?
Posted by DragginFly
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Posted on 12/25/18 at 7:13 am to
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Paladin -- no other name is ever given
When I was a kid, I was convinced Paladin’s first name was “Wire”.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 8:12 pm to
Gunsmoke - "Bloody Hands"
s2 e21
Directed by Andrew Mclaglen
Written by John Meston

Matt is forced to kill three men in the line of duty. Appalled by what he has done, he takes off his badge and leaves Dodge. But outlaws are coming to town...

Most of the half-hour Gunsmoke scripts were taken from the radio series, and this classic is no exception. The highlight is the speech writer Meston gives Chester in the final scene, pleading with Matt to put his badge back on, because he's the only man who can do the job.

The episode actually ends before we see the situation with the outlaws resolved, a very unusual climax for a TV show of the era, or really any era. TV does not like loose ends.

Mclaglen's direction has some nice noirish shots in the jail scenes, but it's that closing speech you remember, one of the high points of the series.

Chester Goode: I been thinkin' lately a whole lot about all this and there's just somethin' that you been forgettin'!

Marshal Matt Dillon: That so?

Chester Goode: Yeah, that's so. It's men like Stanger and Brand, 'cause they got to be stopped! That's all. They gotta be! I'd do it if I could, but I can't. I just ain't good enough. Most men ain't, but you are. It's kinda too bad for ya that ya are, but that's the way it is and there ain't a thing in the world you can do about it.

Chester pleads with Matt to put his badge -- and his guns -- back on

Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 8:50 pm to
I was reading this like it was a new post and to my surprise pops up one of my comments. This one has been around a while.
Posted by chinese58
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 9:21 pm to
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I think Lou Gehrig was in Rawhide wasn't he?


Don't know about that, but The Rifleman, Chuck Conners, played pro baseball. I knew a man that played on a team in Havana Cuba with Conners and Joe Dimagio's brother Dom.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 10:55 pm to
Zane Grey Theater - "The Loner"
S3 E22
Written by Aaron Spelling

Johnny Ringo: I never killed a man for money. Never.

Cason Thomas: Sorry, Johnny. You hear stories.

Johnny Ringo: You ever face a man, Case, knowing you were the last person he was ever going to see before he died? Not his wife, not his kids, but you... A man ought to be surrounded with love when he dies.

Cason Thomas: What started it, son?

Johnny Ringo: I don't know, it just grew. First time you felt like a big man, everybody congratulating you... Then you try it again, just to see how good you really are. One day you find you're like a turkey in a shoot. Everybody wants to try their luck. You can't stop it. You wanna, but you can't. You run, they catch you. You hide, they find you. Sometimes you think it'd be better to lose. Be a little slower and get it over with. You think so, but you just can't slow down that hand. It's not even a part of you. It's learned its job too well.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 4/5/19 at 8:16 am to
Jim Bowie's actual connection to Louisiana is in Concordia, Tensas, and Catahoula parishes. He spent a lot of time in Natchez, Ms.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 9/3/19 at 7:39 pm to
Zane Grey Theater -"Sundown at Bitter Creek"

Directed by Robert Florey
Written by Aaron Spelling

A gunslinger is condemned to wander the West and die every day in a gunfight at sundown.

Flying Dutchman-inspired story, a very rare example of a TV western w/supernatural overtones, and pre-Twilight Zone to boot.

Also notable for its cast: Dick Powell, sad-eyed Cathy O'Donnell, a pre-Rebel Nick Adams, Jeanne Cooper (a fixture in TV oaters), young Peter Breck, and in a rare TV acting role, Tex Ritter as The Balladeer.





Posted by white perch
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Posted on 10/27/19 at 8:24 pm to
Is this the longest running thread in TD history?
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 10/27/19 at 10:10 pm to
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Is this the longest running thread in TD history?
yes

almost four pages now
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 11/4/19 at 7:08 pm to
"Incident of the Fish Out of Water" (1961)

Season 3
Episode 15

Directed by Ted Post
Written by Albert Aley

On a train headed east to visit his two daughters in Philadelphia, Gil Favor meets a Pawnee chief who has agreed to appear in a Wild West show (in exchange for his tribe being given supplies to make it through winter). Once in the city Gil must reconnect with his family as well as rescue the chief from an exploiting boss.

Possibly the series' least typical episode. Set mostly in the city and focusing on the family drama (although the adventure with the Indian provides some last act action). Pete Nolan and Wishbone even show up to really be out of place.

Director Ted Post later helmed several Eastwood vehicles.

Overall a pleasant enough change of pace. The last line, however, is a classic.







Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 12/5/19 at 7:20 pm to
Wagon Train - "The Echo Pass Story" (1965)

Directed by Joseph Pevney
Written by Calvin Clements, from a novel by Burt and Budd Arthur

Cooper Smith is taken prisoner by a gang of ruthless bank robbers and forced to guide them through hostile desert terrain. Can he pit the gang members against each other before they find water and he is no longer needed?

A highlight of the final season and one of my favorite Robert Fuller episodes. A very tense cat and mouse story.

I never cared much for Jack Lord on H5-O, but he was an excellent villain and is especially good here, getting some audience empathy for a murderous thief. Also features an early appearance by a young James Caan.

Robert Fuller and guest star Diane Brewster

Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 6:02 pm to
Bonanza - "Black Friday" (1967)

Directed by William F. Claxton
Written by Herbert Kastle and John Hawkins

In a dusty border town Joe runs into one-time Ponderosa ranch hand Steven Friday, who is now a broken down, alcoholic gunslinger being forced into a gunfight he cannot win.

I am not a huge fan of Bonanza and even less one of Michael Landon. But this is one of his better episodes, a tense, downbeat variation on the famous Gregory Peck film The Gunfighter.

John Saxon as Friday

Posted by Shiftyplus1
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 8:22 pm to
I too am 75 years old.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 8:58 pm to
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I too am 75 years old.
You may be, but I am not

I do prefer watching westerns to looking at musclemen run around in their underwear wearing capes

Thank you for your interest
Posted by flvelo12
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 5:06 am to
Any idea on how one can watch Lancer episodes? Would like to see some James Stacy from back in the day. Thanks again for this thread.
Posted by OlGrandad
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 8:53 am to
My favorite joke ever: Based on Gunsmoke

Chester goes to doc and hem haws until doc says spit it out.

Chester tells doc he has had an erection for 4 days and doesn't know what to do. Doc tells him to go to the stable and shovel some horse manure into a big pile and then stick it in.

Chester goes to the stable and grabs a shove. Just then Miss Kitty walks in and asks him what he is doing. He hem haws with her and finally tells her his problem.

Kitty throws off her dress and says stick it in here.

Chester exclaims, "The whole shovelful?"
This post was edited on 12/11/19 at 8:54 am
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 12:10 pm to
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Any idea on how one can watch Lancer episodes?
YouTube playlist

YT Playlist #2





Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 3:24 pm to
The Rebel
1959-61



Former Confederate soldier Johnny Yuma wanders the west and keeps a journal of his adventures.



While Steve McQueen's Wanted: Dead or Alive hinted at a 1950s anti-hero transplanted to the old west, The Rebel fully embraced the idea, even blatantly likening its hero to beatniks in publicity materials.

Many episodes deal with Yuma being reunited with old friends, ex-GFs or former war buddies and being disillusioned by them -- in one episode Yuma is arrested by a deputy who turns out to be the murderer, and frames Yuma for the crime. No TV hero until The Fugitive would be so alienated (even the contemporary private eye series Johnny Staccato, set in Greenwich Village among actual beats, cannot match it).

Star Nick Adams, former crony of James Dean (and occasional cohort of Elvis, but that's another story) plays Johnny Yuma as more of a full-blooded Hemingway hero than a Kerouac-type observer, but then TV demands action rather than thought.

Frequent director Irvin Kershner would later helm The Empire Strikes Back. Johnny Cash sings the catchy title song (and acts in one episode).

The Rebel is something of a buried treasure for western fans, as it only ran for two seasons and was seldom seen in reruns. If you like westerns it's definitely worth checking out.

Nick Adams, creator-producer Andrew Fenady, and director Irvin Kershner:



Publicity links Johnny Yuma to a rebel of the modern age:



And this ad links Johnny to the many WWII and Korean war veterans in the audience:



The Rebel - "Night on a Rainbow" (full episode on YT)

Johnny is reunited with a war buddy but is shocked to learn he is now a morphine addict.

What could be more modern than a drug addiction story? This episode even has a cold turkey sequence, presumably a first for TV westerns.

Posted by flvelo12
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 7:03 pm to
Wow, I had totally forgotten The Rebel! Nice find.
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