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re: They went thataway, so let's go thisaway: the TV Western thread
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:22 pm to tubucoco
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:22 pm to tubucoco
quote:One of my favorites is from that period
I watched a lot of Gun Smoke on TV as a young kid, and it seemed like that was the only western on TV back then in the 70's, but I know it wasn't, I just don't remember the others
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:35 pm to tubucoco
quote:I watched most of this one a few months ago. It's well produced but I think it suffered b/c of the cold-eyed leading man. He seems like he'd be more comfortable as a villain.
I love watching these old TV westerns, they just have a calming effect on me and of course they bring back memories. I've been watching these shows that I knew nothing about as of late.
1. Tombstone Territory
Trivia: the series was originally intended to focus on the newspaper editor. But the network insisted on having a sheriff be the main character.
quote:I've only seen a handful of these. As it lasted 20 years (plus 12 on radio) I guess I have a lot of catching up to do.
2. Death Valley Days
quote:I've seen a few of these. Generally the scripts are pretty routine, but I like Robert Fuller (I once saw a great interview he did for the 50th anniversary of Wagon Train. He's much livelier IRL than his somber, brooding persona on camera).
3. Laramie
quote:Never saw these as a kid, which is the time to watch them.
5. Annie Oakley
6. The Cisco Kid
quote:Seen a few. I like Guy Williams, it's too bad he never got a western vehicle after Zorro (For a few weeks it t looked like he was going to take the place of Pernell Roberts on Bonanza, but that's a whole 'nother story). Instead he got stuck w/Lost In Space, where he played straight man to Jonthan Harris, really a waste of his talents.
7. Zorro
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:36 pm to Kafka
You can catch The Cisco Kid and Annie Oakley generally around the evening times. I don't know what time zone you're in but I would just check the tv listings after noon time. But yeah, maybe they should have built Tombstone Territory around the editor of the Tombstone Epitaph, that guy was a pretty good actor (Richard Eastham). The show could have been done with him solving the crimes or troublesome issues that were going on in Tombstone with Sheriff Hollister being more of a sidekick to him in solving these crimes. And I think they intended on doing something like that to until the director changed his mind and gave Tombstone to Pat Conway (the Sheriff) because he was the son of a real famous silent film star (actor/director/producer - Hugh ("Jack") Ryan Conway) that was looked upon as Hollywood royalty from what I understand. The director thought Conway was a star in the making, I guess he was wrong.
also, I forgot about the Alias : Smith and Jones, I loved that show, you know your tv westerns,
also, I forgot about the Alias : Smith and Jones, I loved that show, you know your tv westerns,
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 11:55 pm
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:29 am to Kafka
quote:New Link - full episode on YT
Wagon Train - "The Prairie Story"
An untypical WT episode, not so much for its plot -- the hardships of pioneer women -- but for its self-consciously poetic treatment in the manner of Conrad Aiken or Willa Cather, which actually works most of the time (although they do go overboard on the heavenly choir soundtrack). Directed by the great Mitchell Leisen (Death Takes A Holiday, Arise My Love, Hold Back The Dawn).
Posted on 2/1/21 at 8:33 pm to Kafka
Wagon Train - "The Colter Craven Story"
s4e9
November 23, 1960
Written by Tony Paulsen
Directed by John Ford
Dr. Craven feels he can't perform surgery any longger. When he joins the wagon train and his services are desperately needed, he realizes he may be wrong after Major Adams gives him a history lesson.
This episode is a must-see for Wagon Train fans as it provides backstory for Ward Bond's character Major Adams, through flashbacks to the Civil War.
But of course the main reason this episode stands out is it was directed by the master John Ford.
Ford between shots with Ward Bond:
Ford cast many of his "stock company" in supporting roles: Ken Curtis, Anna Lee, Willis Bouchey, Carleton Young, Jack Pennick, Danny Borzage, Hank Worden
Ward Bond and the future Festus:
Also in a small role near the end, shot in shadow, is an actor billed as "Michael Morris":
s4e9
November 23, 1960
Written by Tony Paulsen
Directed by John Ford
Dr. Craven feels he can't perform surgery any longger. When he joins the wagon train and his services are desperately needed, he realizes he may be wrong after Major Adams gives him a history lesson.
This episode is a must-see for Wagon Train fans as it provides backstory for Ward Bond's character Major Adams, through flashbacks to the Civil War.
But of course the main reason this episode stands out is it was directed by the master John Ford.
Ford between shots with Ward Bond:
Ford cast many of his "stock company" in supporting roles: Ken Curtis, Anna Lee, Willis Bouchey, Carleton Young, Jack Pennick, Danny Borzage, Hank Worden
Ward Bond and the future Festus:
Also in a small role near the end, shot in shadow, is an actor billed as "Michael Morris":
Posted on 5/1/21 at 9:32 pm to Kafka
Noting the recent passing of The Rifleman's Johnny Crawford
By my reckoning, not counting child actors there are four stars left from the golden age of TV westerns:
Clint Eastwood - Rawhide
Robert Fuller - Laramie/Wagon Train
Will Hutchins - Sugarfoot
Clu Gulager - The Tall Man
By my reckoning, not counting child actors there are four stars left from the golden age of TV westerns:
Clint Eastwood - Rawhide
Robert Fuller - Laramie/Wagon Train
Will Hutchins - Sugarfoot
Clu Gulager - The Tall Man
Posted on 7/26/21 at 4:10 pm to Kafka
The Big Valley - "The Young Marauders"
S1E4
Oct 6, 1965
Directed by Paul Wendkos
Written by Peter Packer
Audra falls for the dashing young leader of a band of Civil War orphans and refugees -- not knowing that he leads the band on nightriding raids, demanding protection money from farmers in the valley.
A very early, Audra-centric episode which illustrates just how gorgeous 23 year old Linda Evans was (pay specific attention to the wet clothes scene before the opening credits). Also has some acceptable western action, although the guest star's Southern accent leaves something to be desired.
S1E4
Oct 6, 1965
Directed by Paul Wendkos
Written by Peter Packer
Audra falls for the dashing young leader of a band of Civil War orphans and refugees -- not knowing that he leads the band on nightriding raids, demanding protection money from farmers in the valley.
A very early, Audra-centric episode which illustrates just how gorgeous 23 year old Linda Evans was (pay specific attention to the wet clothes scene before the opening credits). Also has some acceptable western action, although the guest star's Southern accent leaves something to be desired.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 7:08 pm to Kafka
Have Gun, Will Travel - "Trial at Tablerock"
December 15, 1962
s6 e14
Written by Gene Roddenberry
Directed by Jerry Hopper
A vengeful prosecutor hires Paladin to assassinate the notorious gunfighter who killed his brother. Paladin refuses but when the prosecutor railroads the gunfighter into a kangaroo court trial on a trumped-up murder charge, Paladin reluctantly serves as his defense counsel.
Roddenberry established himself in Hollywood through his work on HGWT. This is one of his best scripts for the series, allowing Roddenberry to make his points about justice and personal responsibility without getting too pedantic. The last line is a classic.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 11:55 pm to Kafka
From the sublime
to the ridiculous.
to the ridiculous.
Posted on 2/27/22 at 12:39 am to Mr. Misanthrope
quote:This pic is actually from the short-lived series Yancy Derringer, which starred former stuntman Jock Mahoney as a debonair gambler and ex-Confederate soldier, now working as an undercover agent for the US Gov't in post-Civil War New Orleans, along with his non-speaking Indian sidekick.
the ridiculous.
I've been meaning to write about YD for eons, but have never gotten around to it. It's a favorite of mine (I'm a sucker for stories of old NO), with solid production values and often amusing repartee. Whenever the subject of buried treasures among TV westerns comes up it's always one of my recommendations (along with The Rebel). Fans of HGWT or Bat Masterson should enjoy it.
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:10 am to Kafka
Lately a favorite of mine is "Tales of Wells Fargo".
Good stuff.
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:14 am to SantaFe
Another recent favorite is "Adventures of Briscoe County Jr. "
Posted on 2/28/22 at 4:09 pm to SantaFe
quote:
Tales from Wells Fargo
Jim Hardie is faster than any outlaw gunman and smarter than the stage coach company's owner, the railroad owners, the mine owners, and the bank owners.
The Rifleman and Death Valley Days are great too.
I'm watching the Season 8 Episode 32 "Eagle on the Rocks" Death Valley Days right now. Khan (Ricardo Montalban) is playing real life outlaw Joaquin Murietta, Murietta was known as the "Robin Hood of the West" or the "Robin Hood of El Dorado", a figure of disputed historicity. per wiki
The best part of my Suddenlink cable may be the Starz/Encore Western channel. Weekdays they play the same western series every day from 1pm-6pm Central.
Starz/Encore Western channel schedule
Posted on 3/1/22 at 4:18 pm to Kafka
quote:
Yancy’s sidekick, Pahoo-Ka-Ta-Wah, is a silent Pawnee American Indian who communicates only by hand gestures. Pa-hoo-Ka-Ta-Wah is Pawnee for “Wolf who stands in water.” Although Pahoo is short on talk, he is long on action. Beneath a blanketwrapped about his body, he carries a sawed-off double-barreled shotgun loaded with split buckshot, which he wields in emergencies. Most of the time however, he uses a throwing knife sheathed on his back.
quote:
X Brands was born on July 24, 1927 in Kansas City, Missouri, USA. He is known for his work on Yancy Derringer (1958), The Virginian (1962) and The High Chaparral (1967). He was married to Pamela McInnes and Jean Dorothy Merriam. He died on May 8, 2000 in Northridge, California, USA.
Posted on 5/7/22 at 7:56 pm to Mr. Misanthrope
Have Gun, Will Travel - "Genesis"
Directed by William Conrad
Written by Sam Rolfe
s6e1
September 15,1962
In flashback we see how the callow wastrel Paladin, in order to pay off a gambling debt, became a hired gunman.
HGWT's origin story, giving Richard Boone a dual role as both Paladin and the man he is sent to kill. With guest stars William Conrad (who also directed) and Robert Mitchum's son Jim.
Posted on 6/7/22 at 6:45 pm to Kafka
Publicity photos for Bob Hope’s Alias Jesse James (1959). James Arness (Gunsmoke), Hugh O’Brien (Wyatt Earp), Gail Davis (Annie Oakley) and Ward Bond (Wagon Train). All these TV western stars had cameos in AJJ, but none of these shots are in the final film; Hope does not appear on screen with any of them.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 6:58 pm to Kafka
quote:Clu Gulager
By my reckoning, not counting child actors there are four stars left from the golden age of TV westerns:
Clint Eastwood - Rawhide
Robert Fuller - Laramie/Wagon Train
Will Hutchins - Sugarfoot
Clu Gulager - The Tall Man
1928-2022
I just learned he cut a single during his Tall Man days. Not on YT tho :-(
Posted on 8/10/22 at 7:57 pm to Kafka
quote:The Rebel - "The Legacy"
While Steve McQueen's Wanted: Dead or Alive hinted at a 1950s anti-hero transplanted to the old west, The Rebel fully embraced the idea, even blatantly likening its hero to beatniks in publicity materials.
Many episodes deal with Yuma being reunited with old friends, ex-GFs or former war buddies and being disillusioned by them -- in one episode Yuma is arrested by a deputy who turns out to be the murderer, and frames Yuma for the crime. No TV hero until The Fugitive would be so alienated (even the contemporary private eye series Johnny Staccato, set in Greenwich Village among actual beats, cannot match it).
Star Nick Adams, former crony of James Dean (and occasional cohort of Elvis, but that's another story) plays Johnny Yuma as more of a full-blooded Hemingway hero than a Kerouac-type observer, but then TV demands action rather than thought.
Frequent director Irvin Kershner would later helm The Empire Strikes Back. Johnny Cash sings the catchy title song (and acts in one episode).
The Rebel is something of a buried treasure for western fans, as it only ran for two seasons and was seldom seen in reruns. If you like westerns it's definitely worth checking out.
S2 e9
November 13, 1960
Directed by Bernard McEveety
Written by Frank Gilroy
Johnny is the victim of a bizarre frame-up. But will the framer's curious sense of justice end up freeing him?
Johnny Yuma was the most alienated TV character until Dr Richard Kimble. This episode is almost like something from The Twilight Zone with its conspiracy and (justified) paranoia. Writer Gilroy would later win The Pulitzer Prize for The Subject Was Roses.
And yes, that is Soupy Sales as the blacksmith.
Posted on 8/11/22 at 3:59 am to Kafka
Just about every Southern white boy my age remembers that show fondly and know at least the first verse of the Johnny Cash title song. I noticed the song isn't in this episode. Was it part of the show for just one season?
Posted on 8/11/22 at 6:52 pm to mauser
quote:I believe I read the song was cut from some syndication packages of episodes -- probably to save money re music rights.
Just about every Southern white boy my age remembers that show fondly and know at least the first verse of the Johnny Cash title song. I noticed the song isn't in this episode. Was it part of the show for just one season?
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