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re: Who you got if this was the 1st yr of Playoffs

Posted on 12/8/13 at 12:28 am to
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/8/13 at 12:28 am to
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sorry, you had your chance. you shouldn't get rewarded for going 1-1 against auburn, and auburn gets punished for doing the same. and yes - if LSU had lost in 2011 to Alabama in the regular season i would not have lobbied for them to play for the title at 11-1. I didn't do that in 2007 - I openly said if they don't get in the NC then that's their own fault for not going undefeated. If you don't win your conference you shouldn't play for the NC - no matter who you are. I felt this way in 2001 (Nebraska) and 2003 (Oklahoma). It's not because it's Alabama.
This is basically why you should spend your time calling in on radio shows while other people in other places far away from you should be deciding these things.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 12:29 am to
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1. FSU
2. Auburn
3. Bama
4. MSU

The obvious answer.
Posted by FastLife716
Member since Dec 2013
58 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 12:30 am to
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Sorry 1-loss Conference champs go over 1-loss teams.



Stanford is not a 1-loss conference champion.

And you have no idea if that will be the criteria or not that the selection committee applies.

If I look at top 4 teams period (which to me inherently addresses whether you won a conference title or not as one the factors) I have FSU, Auburn, Alabama, and Michigan State

FSU Alabama in one semifinal, Auburn Michigan State in the other semifinal. This is to avoid rematches in the semifinal games, which I think the selection will try to do when possible. I dont think they will avoid a rematch at the expense of having the two best teams play in one semifinal though.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
63976 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 12:32 am to
crazy how some LSU fans are bitching about if Bama would make a four team playoff this year, and it doesn't even exist yet.

sad. sad. sad.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
In hiding with Tupac & XXXTentacion
Member since Dec 2008
32301 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 12:33 am to
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1 FSU
2 Auburn
3 Baylor
4 Sparty


I would switch Baylor and Sparty, but agree otherwise.

National Semifinal 1: FSU-Baylor
National Semifinal 2: Auburn-Mich State (I would be very interested to see who wins this one).
Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
77886 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 12:49 am to
Just goes to show how much we hate your team.
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
4271 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 12:52 am to
Isn't the point of a playoff to find a legit champion of college football? Since there's gonna be a CFB postseason that means things are going to be different. There is rematches in conference championship games sometimes isn't there? Time to get over that.

The playoff should consist of the best 4 teams no matter what. And alabama is one of the best 4 teams in the country. They are a miracle play away from being in the BCSNCG.

And can we stop acting like alabama plays grambling and south Missouri st every week?

Since 08 they have beat at the time they played a top 10 Clemson in 08. #7 Va Tech, #1 UF and #2 Texas in 09. #18 Penn St, # 7 Mich St in 2010. #23 Penn St in 2011 and crushed everyone else that yr except the 9-6 that they later proved an anomaly. #8 Michigan and #1 ND IN 2012. A top 25 Va Tech team this season. And that doesn't even include several top 25, top 10 and top 5 conference opponents.

Sure they've lost some games but not many. They are 72-8 in the last 6 seasons
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 12:54 am to
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The playoff should consist of the best 4 teams no matter what. And alabama is one of the best 4 teams in the country.
Period. The end.
Posted by The White Lobster
Member since Jul 2009
16764 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 1:15 am to
I get people arguing Baylor/Michigan State...they're likely butthurt LSU fans if they're arguing this, but there is a case that could be made at least

But Stanford? Who lost to USC and Utah? Please
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
41031 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 1:21 am to
It's funny to me that the same people who are going out of their way to keep Bama out of this hypothetical and replace them with MSU are the same ones who would have kept OSU out of the title game because of SOS.
Posted by WalkingTurtles
Alexandria
Member since Jan 2013
5913 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 1:25 am to
Ok sir, tell me which teams Alabama beat that finished with double digit wins?

I know two Stanford beat including one they beat twice. People just are understanding my argument. It's not about what Bama has done in the past it's about this year. There three best wins were against two 8-4s and a 9-3. They lost their biggest game of the season. What qualifies them over Stanford who has way better wins or Baylor who only lost once and won their conference.

If conferences don't matter why play in them?
Posted by The White Lobster
Member since Jul 2009
16764 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 1:35 am to
Stanford beat Arizona State and Oregon. Whoopdiedoo. Alabama's wins over LSU and A&M are arguably more impressive. A&M was a different team in September than when they finished the year. Stanford might not have lost their biggest game of the year with one second left on the road against their bitter rival who is going to the national championship game, but they did lose to Utah and Coach O, so they have that going for them.

Who did Baylor beat? That's what I thought.

When you only have a 12 game season there has to be some use of the eye test to pick the top four teams. Sample size isn't big enough to do otherwise.

Conferences do matter. You play in them so you can try to win your conference. Conferences don't matter when determining a national champion though
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20957 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 1:35 am to
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You people arguing that if you don't win your conference and keeping Bama out are fricking retarded. They're clearly a top 4 team.

So the SEC will never have two of the top four teams in the country?
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Child please
Um, you do understand the reason the BCS was scrapped was to stop the SEC domination, right? Things will be decided in a smokey conference room, and not by any clear formula. Basically, the big conferences will all make sure they have a player in the tourney. You have to understand, there are still more conferences than spots, so there will be lots of under the table dealing.
I'm willing to bet you this- we will always see a Big 10 team in, as well as an SEC team. I'm curious which out of the ACC, Pac 12, and Big 12 get left out.
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
41031 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 1:43 am to
PAC 12 was pretty decent this season. Not so sure wins over 3 and 4 loss teams are as impressive as wins over a pair of 10 win teams.
Posted by The White Lobster
Member since Jul 2009
16764 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 1:46 am to
Arizona State lost to Notre Dame and could have lost to Wisconsin if the officials paid attention.

Oregon was torched by Arizona

Forgive me for not being impressed
Posted by Mr White
New Mexico
Member since Sep 2013
187 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 1:51 am to
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. You can't convince me that Bama isn't one of top 4 teams in the country. 

You sure post a lot of love for Bama for a LSU "fan"
Posted by WalkingTurtles
Alexandria
Member since Jan 2013
5913 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 2:00 am to
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Conferences do matter. You play in them so you can try to win your conference. Conferences don't matter when determining a national champion though


WOW
Posted by 1ranter1
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
10414 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 2:04 am to
1. FSU
2. Auburn
3. Mich St
4. Baylor

But of course Bama would get in despite not winning their division and not having a win over a top 10 team and having only one win over a top 20 team.
Posted by The White Lobster
Member since Jul 2009
16764 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 2:04 am to
2 years ago Connecticut won the NCAA basketball tournament even though they finished 9th in their conference. Should they only let conference champions into the tournament?
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
12167 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 2:06 am to
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WOW

Guaranteed if you asked him before 2011 if a team has to win their conference to be able to win a NC, he would have said, "absolutely". Revisionist history is fun
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