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Posted on 12/8/13 at 10:25 am to WalkingTurtles
It'd be FSU vs Stanford, FSU wins.
Then Aubie vs Bama. Auburn won the first game, but Bama would be favored. Either would beat FSU.
Then Aubie vs Bama. Auburn won the first game, but Bama would be favored. Either would beat FSU.
Posted on 12/8/13 at 10:27 am to SlowFlowPro
College Football season is short.
Isn't the regular season the 1st round of the playoffs?
You bet.
Then you take the Conference Champs.
You have to use some objective measuring stick - something to aim for in the regular season to be given a shot.
Just like March Madness - every team who wins their conference doesn't have to rely on eyeball test - they know they are a guaranteed a slot.
College football has always had a playoff - it starts in week 1...you don't play your into a Natty - you play your way out of of one...because of preseason polls.
Presason polls
Regular season playoff
Post-season playoff - conference champ
Not that hard, folks.
Isn't the regular season the 1st round of the playoffs?
You bet.
Then you take the Conference Champs.
You have to use some objective measuring stick - something to aim for in the regular season to be given a shot.
Just like March Madness - every team who wins their conference doesn't have to rely on eyeball test - they know they are a guaranteed a slot.
College football has always had a playoff - it starts in week 1...you don't play your into a Natty - you play your way out of of one...because of preseason polls.
Presason polls
Regular season playoff
Post-season playoff - conference champ
Not that hard, folks.
This post was edited on 12/8/13 at 10:27 am
Posted on 12/8/13 at 10:27 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Did/will the playoff committee discuss who they would have selected this year? Be interesting to see what they would say, not that it matters.
Posted on 12/8/13 at 10:27 am to The Easter Bunny
I still take fsu.
Posted on 12/8/13 at 10:30 am to WalkingTurtles
quote:Bama's SOS is higher than Baylor's.
SOS Bama couldn't touch anyone of the teams that has been mentioned.
Posted on 12/8/13 at 10:33 am to Baloo
quote:
There is no reason to displace any of the 5 conference champs based on their resumes, so I'd chose amongst them.
looking at resumes...
MSU has a solid/unspectacular resume.
Stanford has 2 losses (including one to a 5-7 team)
Baylor got the ever living shite kicked out of them
UCF played nobody and lost to the 5th-ish SEC team
so yes, looking at resumes alone i'd take a fluke 1-loss Bama over all except MSU
Posted on 12/8/13 at 10:34 am to Zamoro10
quote:
You have to use some objective measuring stick - something to aim for in the regular season to be given a shot.
conference championships make no sense in this respect and are utterly illogical. this unwritten rule is a reward for shitty conferences and nothing else. it makes no logical sense and goes against the entire point behind a playoff
Posted on 12/8/13 at 10:39 am to WylieTiger
quote:I like this format. Wish we had it in place instead of 4 teams. Enough spots to cover the conference champs, plus allow for a couple at-large bids. You could Put the AAC into a pool with the MAC and Mountain West, and pull whoever is most impressive from that. The old, established conferences all get their champs in.
Has Bama really played themselves out?
In a 4 team scenario, yes. The conference champs are rewarded 1st. Looking at the AAC, ACC, B10, B12, P12, SEC, and AQs/Independents, along with the current polls, I think this should be the top 4 and top 8.
1) FSU
2) Auburn
3) MSU
4) Baylor/Stanford
5) Stanford/Baylor
6) UCF
7) Alabama*
8) Ohio State*
* = wildcard
Posted on 12/8/13 at 10:43 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:That should be patently obvious to anyone with a brain, but...
conference championships make no sense in this respect and are utterly illogical. this unwritten rule is a reward for shitty conferences and nothing else. it makes no logical sense and goes against the entire point behind a playoff
Posted on 12/8/13 at 11:18 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
conference championships make no sense in this respect and are utterly illogical. this unwritten rule is a reward for shitty conferences and nothing else. it makes no logical sense and goes against the entire point behind a playoff
This.
Zamoro is wrongv yet again
Posted on 12/8/13 at 11:30 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
MSU has a solid/unspectacular resume.
Stanford has 2 losses (including one to a 5-7 team)
Baylor got the ever living shite kicked out of them
UCF played nobody and lost to the 5th-ish SEC team
Legitimate points.
quote:
fluke 1-loss
Disagree here. You can't get into dismissing losses as flukes. The team took care of business or it didn't. You pimp-slap the other team and "fluke" doesn't become an issue.
As far as choosing teams, you're most likely going to have more 1-loss teams with an argument than you do available playoff berths. So you have to apply certain principles.
Conference champs should count for something and a team shouldn't go ahead of its own conference champ.
Avoid rematches if you can. I still think Okie Lite should have gone to the BCSCG in 2011, as they were a conference champ and both Oregon and Bama already had their shot at LSU (and this isn't butthurt--Okie Lite would have won because JJ still would have stunk up the Dome).
Examine records against top ten and top 25 teams. Don't rely on vague eyeball tests or brand names. If the SEC has a down year, treat its teams accordingly.
Posted on 12/8/13 at 11:34 am to Scoob
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I like this format. Wish we had it in place instead of 4 teams. Enough spots to cover the conference champs, plus allow for a couple at-large bids. You could Put the AAC into a pool with the MAC and Mountain West, and pull whoever is most impressive from that. The old, established conferences all get their champs in.
It could work. I don't see any team with a legitimate claim being left out. If you're complaining that you were #8 and not #9, then you definitely have no case for being #1.
If you're going to expand the playoff, I like 12 teams. That increases the value of late regular season games.
With a 12-team playoff, the top four teams get a bye and a second round home game. The 5-8 teams get a first round home game. Teams that are a lock to make the playoffs still have to play for seeding. Teams that are out of the running for the conference championship are still fighting for a wild card berth.
Posted on 12/8/13 at 11:38 am to WalkingTurtles
Fsu vs Stanford
Posted on 12/8/13 at 1:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
SlowFlowPro
You make an excellent point that résumé speaking Alabama has the best loss and that should count. However they are at the bottom in terms of best wins. And they lost their biggest game of the season. They could not pull it out and win their conference.
Noles go undefeated and win the ACC. Aubie goes 12-1 and wins the SEC. Michigan St goes 12-1 and wins the Big Ten. Those three pass the eyeball test as well as being teams that won their biggest games and conference titles.
Now it's down to Stanford/Baylor/Alabama. To me Stanford while have the worst loss/losses played the most impressive schedule and won their conference. Baylor has looked impressive but has played a poor SOS and got absolutely destroyed in their loss. Alabama played a poor SOS as well and lost their biggest game of the season. They won no conference title.
To me it's not about the quality of the loss so much as the quality of the wins and the opponet. And if they were able to win their league.
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