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re: George Karl
Posted on 11/6/13 at 12:58 pm to GynoSandberg
Posted on 11/6/13 at 12:58 pm to GynoSandberg
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Poppovich is 16 for 17 in making the playoffs.
I knew I'd leave someone out.
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Posted on 11/6/13 at 12:59 pm to GynoSandberg
I'm all aboard the Karl Train.
I almost don't care what Monty does the rest of the year. Unless we tear it up and are a pretty high seed, I just think Monty isn't a very good coach.
Nice guy, mediocre Head Coach.
I almost don't care what Monty does the rest of the year. Unless we tear it up and are a pretty high seed, I just think Monty isn't a very good coach.
Nice guy, mediocre Head Coach.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 12:59 pm to MrPappagiorgio
quote:
Im really curious how long Benson will give Monty...
There are a lot of variables at play. For one we don't know how expensive or team optioney his contract is. If it's around $1 million per year full of team options it's a lot easier to walk away from than $2 million per without options.
We also don't know how hot Demps' seat is. Most people think that the Hornets and the Thunder lost the star player trades where they got what was hoped to be a high pick that ended up 10 and 12. If our pick is 10th or worse Demps looks like a genius for the Holiday trade, if it's under 10 he's an idiot and possibly out of a job. If Monty can't turn things around Demps may have to fire him to save his own neck.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 1:01 pm to GynoSandberg
I think if Karl is gonna get the spot, it has to be sooner than later. They can't wait til after the break to hire a new coach with a new offense. If he gets fired after or at the break, it'll have to be someone who's already on the staff on an interim basis.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 1:02 pm to Gtothemoney
How often do teams replace a coach with another proven coach not already on the staff during the season? I know that the Lakers did it last year, but usually they go with one of the assistants the rest of the way.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 1:07 pm to Fun Bunch
Those teams usually aren't built to compete. Like the Kings a few years ago or even the Hornets when they fired Byron Scott.
In the Lakers case, they had a good team and still thought they could make a run.
I think the Pels would fall in to the same category.
In the Lakers case, they had a good team and still thought they could make a run.
I think the Pels would fall in to the same category.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 1:10 pm to GynoSandberg
First of all, I think there's not a good chance of this happening.
But the question would be:
Does Karl immediately bring in his own staff? Or does he work with Monty's staff? If its not done at the All-Star break, it would have to be during a time where they have a few days off in between games.
But the question would be:
Does Karl immediately bring in his own staff? Or does he work with Monty's staff? If its not done at the All-Star break, it would have to be during a time where they have a few days off in between games.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 1:12 pm to Fun Bunch
Also, they are going to give Monty every benefit of the doubt, since its a new roster and they don't have Anderson right now.
They will give him at least 20 games with Anderson, unless its a TOTAL disaster.
I don't see anything happening before the All-Star break.
They will give him at least 20 games with Anderson, unless its a TOTAL disaster.
I don't see anything happening before the All-Star break.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 1:13 pm to Fun Bunch
Didn't the Lakers fire Mike Brown like a week or two into the season? If it woulda been later on in the season, after the break or something, they probably woulda waited until the following season before they hired a different coach with a different scheme. That's all I'm saying.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 1:15 pm to Fun Bunch
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I don't see anything happening before the All-Star break
We'll not to toot my own horn, but I'll do it anyway, I thought and said from before the season started that if this team isn't in contention by the break, Monty will be fired.
This post was edited on 11/6/13 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 11/6/13 at 2:02 pm to GynoSandberg
quote:
This is what happens when Carmelo Anthony is your best player.
No mention of going to the WCF in his first year in Seattle with that young, Sonic team? Or losing to the Bulls in the finals? Or losing to Hakeem and Shaq/Kobe led teams in the semis?
Those Sonic teams are very similar to the Pels. Young, athletic PF. Great defensive PG who can score the ball. Smooth shooting big men. They were a top 5 offensive and defensive team for most of Karl's tenure. Their core was young and got out and pushed the ball.
Karl really would be perfect here. I bet he wouldn't mind coaching this team, if not for coaching AD alone.
Point is, Karl gets the most out of his teams every year. That Sonics team peaked during the wrong year, losing 4-2 in the Finals to the 72-win Bulls. Karl knows how to pull young, talented teams together on both ends of the floor.
As for Monty, his offenses look like Summer League basics. But he is supposed to be an excellent defensive coach...yet every year his teams suck at rotations. Different players, same problems while only the head coach is static. Survey says...
Posted on 11/6/13 at 4:14 pm to Gtothemoney
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We'll not to toot my own horn, but I'll do it anyway, I thought and said from before the season started that if this team isn't in contention by the break, Monty will be fired.
I really don't see it. Doesn't strike me as Benson's style and it isn't as if there is any benefit in it -- not like they'll turn into a playoff competitor under one of the assistants.
quote:
Phil Jackson never missed the playoffs.
Poppovich is 16 for 17 in making the playoffs.
Riley is 21 for 24.
A guy like Rick Adelman is 18 for 22.
Jerry Sloan was 20 for 26.
Larry Brown was 18 for 27.
Karl has coached the 6th most playoff games all time and wins 43% of the time.
Is that supposed to be an argument in favor of Karl?
This post was edited on 11/6/13 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 11/6/13 at 6:29 pm to Unknown_Poster
Actually most teams make the playoffs. 16 teams make the playoffs, 14 don't. Here is my problem with monty. He is mostly a defensive coach with a defensive mentality, and yet defense is currently our point of weakness. Sure he needs time to work on defense with the players, but that's what the offseason is for. I like him as a person and want him to stay, however the nba is business. Let's give him more games but by the end of the season, we will have our answer on whether or not he is our answer at head coach.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 7:56 pm to LSUfan97
I'd pass on George Karl. his best years are behind him. Is PJ Carlesimo still available? He did wonders with the Nets last year. I'm not saying he would be a good fit but there are coaches out there for an interim basis.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 7:58 pm to NIH
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