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re: Key to Bama Game--Pressure on McCarron

Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:05 pm to
Posted by Tiger79
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:05 pm to
He burns you if you blitz him. unless Bama plays a re horrible game and we play a perfect game they will stomp us
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
42023 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:07 pm to
The key is for our Offense to control the ball and keep AJ and his tats on the sideline

Convert 3rd downs

And TRY to at least get a few 3rd down stops on D
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
14203 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:08 pm to
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And then there is the whole no holding thing from bama refs


I don't think that Bama's gonna need the refs to cheat for them this time. That said, if we can somehow keep it close in the 2nd half, all bets are off, especially if Bug Eyes and his crew are calling the game.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:14 pm to
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He burns you if you blitz him. unless Bama plays a re horrible game and we play a perfect game they will stomp us



Disguising the blitz so he doesn't have time to adjust is what needs to happen. Give him 4-5 seconds and this one will be a blood bath.
Posted by DarkKingArthur
Member since Oct 2012
89 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:22 pm to
We didn't get that much pressure on him last year. I honestly don't know how we stop them. Our secondary can't match up for long periods of time. They will screen pass us to death if we blitz (with our boy DJ Welter trying to tackle Yeldon/Drake...YIKES).
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24279 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:24 pm to
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Against Georgia, the entire defense had zero sacks and zero hurries. Not one. I had never seen that before.


Yeah, UGA was terrible. Murray never even got his jersey dirty.

However, LSU blitzed well against UF. Obviously, UF has major issues on offense, but we were jumping up and blocking passes, getting in their fast and coming from all over. We need similar play against a much better Bama team.

I saw Tennessee hit McCarron one time during the game and he had to release the ball faster than he wanted to. It was a clean hit and McCarron was furious that he was hit. The Tennessee guy was just walking back by the defense and McCarron grabbed his arm and then started talking smack to him. So I would try to frustrate him and get in his head if possible (not wait, watch and move the chains).
Posted by la champ1
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:32 pm to
Pressure on Mccarron won't be enough, it's the running game that has to be stopped. If you let yield on and drake run up and down the field they won't need AJ.
Posted by DarkKingArthur
Member since Oct 2012
89 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:32 pm to
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However, LSU blitzed well against UF. Obviously, UF has major issues on offense, but we were jumping up and blocking passes, getting in their fast and coming from all over. We need similar play against a much better Bama team.


Real easy to bring pressure when you're not scared of anyone beating you deep. Florida is a disaster on offense. Norwood, Bell, and Cooper can all beat us. We won't be able to blitz. Hunter and Rasco will have to play well. Really hate our matchup here. Mingo was contained last year by Fluker.
This post was edited on 10/28/13 at 2:35 pm
Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:37 pm to
Yeldon and drake vs DJ Welter pain train
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
16355 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:40 pm to
Look at the old film of one of the few games Dinardo did well....the '97 Florida game.... gotta sell out with pressure on their QB...usually that makes our DL tired by 3rd quarter... but with creative blitz packages and fresh D-Line, it can work into the 4th quarter; I'm talking about "platooning/subbing" a group of 3 or 4 new DL all at once...even if nobody has heard of them before or they are not starters.. Now, for all the experts on here who say "we have no depth at DL..." you are correct...BUT, that '97 Florida game worked b/c even though they weren't ready or talented or SEC D-Line material, the sub packages had FRESH LEGS in the 4th quarter...and that is enough to keep the pressure on AJ and give us a chance....

With just a bit of pressure on an opposing QB, our defensive backs, as young as they are, have a chance...

Ok, I'm gonna get flamed here and called stupid, but hell, at this point I'm grasping at straws on how to keep us in the game into the 4th quarter to give us a chance...
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24279 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:40 pm to
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Pressure on Mccarron won't be enough, it's the running game that has to be stopped. If you let yield on and drake run up and down the field they won't need AJ.


This. Priority #1 (and a really tough challenge looking at how bad we have tackled this year). We didn't stop their run game last year, but Saban decided to pass a little too much for some reason when we started catching fire on offense).
Posted by TigerfFaithful
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
353 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:42 pm to
If the key to beating Bama is getting pressure on McCarron, then we are in trouble. Our front four has been unable to put pressure on QBs the entire season. Alabama has only given up seven sacks for 43 yards. Bama's offense is geared towards counteracting pas rush and blitzing with short to intermediate passing, a bruising running game, well-balanced ratio of run to pass, and a QB who does not make many mistakes. McCarron has only thrown 3 INTs. I do not see us putting consistent pressure on McCarron this game.

There is no single "key" to beating Bama. You have to play solid in all phases of the game for 60 minutes. Therein lies the problem, as we have a mediocre defense, especially up the middle and at safety. You can expect Saban to attempt to exploit these weaknesses over and over.

As I wrote in another thread, I believe one of the major keys to beating Bama is to limit "3 and outs" on offense. Saban's defensive philosophy is to go all out with pressure and challenge the opposing offense to get a quick stop, flip the field on a punt, and force the opposing defense back on the field after 3 plays. I understand that this the goal of every defense, but Bama is the best at doing it. Unless our offense creates first downs, Bama's style of play will wear down our defense quickly. Our only chance to win is to sustain multiple drives that keep our defense off the field. I believe if we have a 25/20 TOP advantage and NO TURNOVERS going into the 4th quarter, then anything can happen and we have a chance to pull it out in a close game, like we did in 2011.
This post was edited on 10/28/13 at 2:44 pm
Posted by LeMarteau
Hoover, AL (B.R. native)
Member since Mar 2008
2168 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:57 pm to
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Yeldon and drake vs DJ Welter pain train


Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24279 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:58 pm to
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Real easy to bring pressure when you're not scared of anyone beating you deep. Florida is a disaster on offense. Norwood, Bell, and Cooper can all beat us. We won't be able to blitz. Hunter and Rasco will have to play well. Really hate our matchup here. Mingo was contained last year by Fluker.


Yes, I understand that, but Hunter was knocking down balls and disrupting things even without being right up on the QB. Those are things that we didn't really do in any other games (even against worse teams). Those are major things that can help. You have to disrupt things any way you can.

We have to try and blitz every once in a while. No, we don't want to send the house the majority of the time, but we have to at least make him guess what we're doing at times. If he can predict what's gonna happen on every play, we can all predict what the outcome will be.

We have talented guys too. They maybe haven't played like it, but sometimes you gotta do things a little different to try and get a different result.

We're not even close to having the kind of defense VT has, but they blitzed and were successful against AJ (unfortunately for them, their special teams and offense gave up TDs). I'm just saying that for anyone who thinks you can't blitz him at all. We just don't have the guys to do it like they did it though.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 3:02 pm to
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We havent gotten consistent pressure from the front 4 and when we do blitz it always seems to get picked up


Legit points....put the corners on islands....bring the freekin house....what's the harm? Teams seem to be rippin big chunks when we lay back anyways. If we can donkey punch AJM early, maybe he gets happy feet.
This post was edited on 10/28/13 at 3:09 pm
Posted by DarkKingArthur
Member since Oct 2012
89 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 3:04 pm to
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Yeldon and drake vs DJ Welter pain train


He's coming..better watch out.
Posted by DarkKingArthur
Member since Oct 2012
89 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 3:04 pm to
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Legit points....put the corners on islands....bring the freekin house....what's the harm? Teams seem to be rippin big chunks when we lay back. If we can donkey punch AJM early, maybe he gets happy feet.


That's the key. At least we get the ball back. Just sitting and waiting for something to happen isn't going to work.
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 3:08 pm to
good thing we pressured every QB we faced.... OH WAIT
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56689 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 3:09 pm to
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To have any chance in this game, we have to put constant pressure on AJ (Stunts, blitzes, etc.). We can not get pressure on the QB just rushing 4. If we don't put pressure, it will wind up being 3rd and Chavis all night and we will get beat. Learn from your mistakes Chief....

And before you all say, "well we blitzed with one minute to go last year against Bama and look what happened".....we have no chance in this game if we come out in that non-aggressive soft zone BS.



It is a myth that we have not been blitzing on 3rd down this year.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 3:09 pm to
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good thing we pressured every QB we faced.... OH WAIT


I think the point is we're not even really trying.

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