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Statisticians: What is the % that calling TO with 20 seconds would've affected

Posted on 10/21/13 at 4:37 pm
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 4:37 pm
Not excusing what happened and would have loved any chance.

But, what is the % chance that calling a time out with 20 or so seconds would have changed the outcome? We would have been without any more time outs and starting likely starting well on out side of the field.

Gotta think it would have been pretty extreme long shot.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 4:39 pm to
Sure it's an extreme long shot. But he basically guaranteed that we had a 0 percent chance of winning if they made the field goal. It really can't be defended.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 4:39 pm to
I'm no statistician, by I'm pretty confident that the outcome wouldn't have changed.

There is always something that people have to point to and say "If this was different, we would have won the game!" I think that 20 seconds is the weakest attempt.
Posted by RedMustang
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 4:39 pm to
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Posted by Bear Is Dead
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 4:39 pm to
Not a statistician, but we would've had a razor thin chance to win. That's the worst part of this, we were probably going to lose anyway. Miles just gave the masses more fuel, even if it was pointless. Dumb move, but we still lose in that situation.
Posted by Relham10
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 4:40 pm to
5% chance it would have changed the outcome
Posted by The312
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 4:42 pm to
quote:

Statisticians: What is the % that calling TO with 20 seconds would've affected


It was closer to thirty seconds than twenty. In any event, irrespective of the exact probabilities, failing to call the TO was indefensible stupidity.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67309 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 4:42 pm to
The difference is exponential. 20 seconds is 3 pass attempts, a spike, and a field goal attempt. It would make for a long shot, but it would be a shot. It bumps LSU's chances up from .1% to probably around 20%.
Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 4:46 pm to
He should've called it sooner but whatever.
Posted by Vlad The Inhaler
Moose Jaw, SK
Member since Sep 2008
3160 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 4:46 pm to
Miles inferred that our best chance, in his opinion, was to ice the kicker and block the kick.

How common is it to block field goals? IDK, but not great, and even more rare to block two in one game.

IMO, 20 seconds to get roughly 45 yards with no time outs > blocking an easy field goal. Of course, that assumes the team would be organized enough to run that kind of hurry up offense and rush the field goal unit in on time.
Posted by Drew Orleans
Member since Mar 2010
21577 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 4:51 pm to
The man is a game day idiot.

Plain and simple.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 4:54 pm to
I don't care if it's a 5% chance, it sure beats zero. OBJ returning kicks, Mett, Landry and OBJ going against prevent defense. I'd say it's better than nothing.
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31834 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 4:56 pm to
think about this. what if he missed the fg and les didn't call time out. ball would have been at the 35 with 30 seconds left. enough time for a few passes and shot at delahouysse knocking in a long kick. but without les calling timeout you leave no time for options.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 5:04 pm to
Would you rather a 5% chance or a 0% chance. Pretty simple.

We have the only coach in the country dumb enough to not call a timeout there and instead focus on setting up the FG block. Something he could have done during the timeout in the first place.

Then he calls one with 6 seconds left instead of making Ole Miss call one. I'm sorry but Les is an idiot.
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
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Member since May 2009
80327 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 5:11 pm to
I bet Kentucky wished they would have called time out with 6 sec left in 2002. Point being anything can happen
Posted by jwill37
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Member since Jan 2007
1383 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 5:20 pm to
We converted a third and twenty three at Georgia. What was the percentage on that? What was the blue grass miracle percentage? I know one percentage. Les is a 100% tard.
Posted by BaBaDoo
Member since Aug 2011
218 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 5:41 pm to
Shouldn't have even called a timeout. Let them use theirs and the clock run down. If they snap poorly or hold, we go to overtime. Way better chance of that happening.

But since you're all experts then I'll just stay out of it.
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
7969 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 6:19 pm to
While everyone is bitching about that (because is was obviously wrong), the real problem was that we didn't eat all the clock on out last drive.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 6:24 pm to
Probably better odds on driving and scoring than odds on icing the kicker working.
Posted by lsutothetop
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 6:50 pm to
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