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re: If you could change anything about the BB finale...

Posted on 10/1/13 at 9:28 am to
Posted by mm2316
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Posted on 10/1/13 at 9:28 am to
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Are we sure he was not replacing the box?

In an interview with Gilligan, when asked about what happens next with Jessie, he says its up to the viewer. He something about it's just as possible as him getting pulled over by the cops when leaving, as it is him getting away free and starting over. To me, that says the box scene was a flashback, or a daydream, but not a flash forward.
This post was edited on 10/1/13 at 9:29 am
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 10/1/13 at 9:31 am to
He also said "the romantic in me wants to believe he got away and made it to Alaska" so I'll go with that one
Posted by TDTGodfather
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/1/13 at 9:36 am to
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I wish they would've given any indication what Jesse was going to do. Also kind of wanted a scene showing Walt's family receiving the trust from the Schwartz's and if Saul was managing the Cinnabon in Omaha.

you wanted your animal house ending didn't you?


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How he got the m60 on a road trip from NH and NM...

that was covered in a flash forward in what i think was S 5 episode 1 but could be wrong. the "52 bacon at denny's" scene is longer. the waitress tells him he can get his meal for free with ID, he says no, she presses him so he shows his ID and that's when she calls him Mr Lambert. then i think his gun connection from earlier seasons shows up and they do business.

in the finale they cut it to just the "52 bacon" part bc they've already shown you the rest.
This post was edited on 10/1/13 at 9:37 am
Posted by TDTGodfather
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/1/13 at 9:39 am to
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In an interview with Gilligan, when asked about what happens next with Jessie, he says its up to the viewer. He something about it's just as possible as him getting pulled over by the cops when leaving, as it is him getting away free and starting over. To me, that says the box scene was a flashback, or a daydream, but not a flash forward.

i took that scene strictly as a daydream and the chains yank him back to reality. it seemed fairly obvious but that's just me.

in a finale that went out of its way to tie up loose ends and leave little to the imagination i'm totally ok with Jesse securing his freedom with his whole life ahead of him.
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 10/1/13 at 9:39 am to
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that was covered in a flash forward in what i think was S 5 episode 1 but could be wrong. the "52 bacon at denny's" scene is longer. the waitress tells him he can get his meal for free with ID, he says no, she presses him so he shows his ID and that's when she calls him Mr Lambert. then i think his gun connection from earlier seasons shows up and they do business.


Yeah I didn't forget that scene, just didn't remember if the original scene established whether or not he was in New Mexico during it

ETA: shite I thought you were responding to me
This post was edited on 10/1/13 at 9:41 am
Posted by TDTGodfather
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/1/13 at 9:42 am to
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Yeah I didn't forget that scene, just didn't remember if the original scene established whether or not he was in New Mexico during it

yeah wasn't responding to you but doesn't marie make it sound like it was a local denny's? so i took it as it being in NM.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/1/13 at 9:47 am to
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He was in a tiny town that probably had like 6 cops and he left pretty much immediately. Not much time or resources for roadblocks. And also roadblocks pretty much never happen anyway. Logistical nightmares.


Also, it was a call hangup, after saying he was heisenberg. No way they even knew for sure it was him. Marie even said they were getting calls locally from people with different voices.

Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
16327 posts
Posted on 10/1/13 at 9:49 am to
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Also, it was a call hangup, after saying he was heisenberg. No way they even knew for sure it was him. Marie even said they were getting calls locally from people with different voices.


Yeah they probably didn't haveva good idea until they talked to the bartender and found out the car was stolen. He was long gone by that point
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/1/13 at 10:03 am to
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i took that scene strictly as a daydream and the chains yank him back to reality. it seemed fairly obvious but that's just me.

Yeah, it's also a callback to Jesse's therapy sessions, when he talked about the box he built in shop class that he sold to buy weed. It's a daydream back to when he was happy, before he ever got into the drug trade. Be a f'n carpenter, bitch.

I actually didn't like the call with Lydia, as I felt it was too on the nose. The series has always been real good about expecting us to keep up, and it was clear from the coffee scene that Walt poisoned her. I would've extremely hated further future tags of what happens. It's way too on the nose. The story ends with Walt's death. It had to. The Schwartz's will go through with the trust because it's not worth the risk not to. Skyler and Marie will reconcile because they are sisters, but they will always be hostile because they are sisters. Jesse will do something else... but that is a different story.
Posted by Baloo
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Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 10/1/13 at 10:04 am to
Oh, what would I have added?

I final shot of the money barrels, wasting away, undiscovered and with no one to spend them. All those deaths for nothing. I'd like that visual. And then hover on the beauty of New Mexico.
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
19708 posts
Posted on 10/1/13 at 10:07 am to
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I actually didn't like the call with Lydia, as I felt it was too on the nose.

I can see this. It didn't really add anything to the story or give us any further closure. I think they could have done better with that minute or however long it was.

I'm not sure why they decided to make it a point that Lydia was poisoned and going to die. We already knew that.

ETA what would I have added? I think some shots of marie/skyler/walt jr/jesse at the end while walt is in the lab could have been powerful...
This post was edited on 10/1/13 at 10:11 am
Posted by TDTGodfather
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
6169 posts
Posted on 10/1/13 at 10:13 am to
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I actually didn't like the call with Lydia, as I felt it was too on the nose. The series has always been real good about expecting us to keep up, and it was clear from the coffee scene that Walt poisoned her.

yeah i'm with you. at the same time i think both her scene and jesse strangling the life out of the FNL kid was a total candy throw to fans.i would've been ok either way. however walt has a way of wanting you to know he beat you so...

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final shot of the money barrels, wasting away, undiscovered and with no one to spend them

the ones the nazi's took? do they ever show them in the possesion of the nazi's after they load them in the truck?

my only hope is that somehow huell happens upon them and makes sweet love to them.
This post was edited on 10/1/13 at 10:14 am
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 10/1/13 at 10:30 am to
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and if Saul was managing the Cinnabon in Omaha.

I've seen rumors that there will be a spin off based around Saul Goodman. Not sure how that would play with fans though.

ETA: Here's a LINK to one article about it. It's to be a prequel supposedly.
This post was edited on 10/1/13 at 10:36 am
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 10/1/13 at 10:31 am to
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I actually didn't like the call with Lydia, as I felt it was too on the nose. The series has always been real good about expecting us to keep up, and it was clear from the coffee scene that Walt poisoned her.


I liked the phone call. They've teased us with the ricin since season 2, it was great to finally see it used and to see its effects on a victim.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 10/1/13 at 11:00 am to
My point is we know she was poisoned before the phone call. As soon as they did a closeup of her pouring the lone Stevia packet into her tea, we knew she was a goner.
Posted by TigerRad
Columbia, SC
Member since Jan 2007
5354 posts
Posted on 10/1/13 at 11:03 am to
more dialogue with Gretchen and Elliott, revealing the circumstances of Walts departure from GM. They had to have fricked him over something harsh.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51879 posts
Posted on 10/1/13 at 11:40 am to
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more dialogue with Gretchen and Elliott, revealing the circumstances of Walts departure from GM. They had to have fricked him over something harsh.


They didn't. They bought Walt out for 5k. Walt voluntarily sold his share because Flynn had just come along and needed the money.
Posted by TigerRad
Columbia, SC
Member since Jan 2007
5354 posts
Posted on 10/1/13 at 11:44 am to
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They didn't. They bought Walt out for 5k. Walt voluntarily sold his share because Flynn had just come along and needed the money.


have you seen the show?


with the way he interacts with Gretchen at dinner, the flashbacks, and what he goes on to become...I think we all know there has to be more to the story than just that....
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78785 posts
Posted on 10/1/13 at 11:45 am to
jr breakfast scene..in direct contrast to the walt 52 scene would have been nice

also i would have loved to seen saul working at cinnabon or sbarro while the end credits were rolling
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51879 posts
Posted on 10/1/13 at 11:48 am to
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have you seen the show?


No, took a total shot in the dark there. Walt said himself they didn't screw him he screwed himself. He acts like that because he's jealous of what he could have had.
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