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Is Corey Raymond the problem or just a lack of talent.

Posted on 9/30/13 at 9:51 am
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
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Posted on 9/30/13 at 9:51 am
The Jalens have regressed since last year along with Losten IMO.
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 9/30/13 at 9:52 am to
list the DBs that have not regressed since Raymond took over
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
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Posted on 9/30/13 at 9:57 am to
Valid point. They all look uncoached and lost.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 9/30/13 at 10:00 am to
Is Raymond critical in recruiting? If he isn't, I can see him finding another job after this season. Les has usually done the right thing when these situations have popped up.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
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Posted on 9/30/13 at 10:01 am to
We miss Cooper in a bad way.
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
4127 posts
Posted on 9/30/13 at 10:02 am to
quote:

Is Raymond critical in recruiting?


I believe he is in the New Orleans area. We just need a primary db coach. Maybe he can be assistant head-recruiter and assistant DB coach?

If the previous coach is available, can't we bring him back in as a consultant?
This post was edited on 9/30/13 at 10:04 am
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29303 posts
Posted on 9/30/13 at 10:03 am to
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New Orleans area


I thought that was Frank Wilson's territory?
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
18553 posts
Posted on 9/30/13 at 10:03 am to
I'm sure cooper would love to leave USF to come back to LSU.

I wonder if he'd do it mid season
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
4127 posts
Posted on 9/30/13 at 10:04 am to
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I thought that was Frank Wilson's territory?


Frank is head of the recruiting office, isn't he? Can someone clear up Frank Wilson's position versus Kragthorpe's?
This post was edited on 9/30/13 at 10:06 am
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 9/30/13 at 10:05 am to
quote:

Is Raymond critical in recruiting


he was credited with landing Diarse from Neville. Other than that, I haven't heard much about him.
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
28117 posts
Posted on 9/30/13 at 10:06 am to
cooper was fired or whatever you want to call it for his lack of recruiting abilities....i think he is a good coach though
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
36009 posts
Posted on 9/30/13 at 10:08 am to
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cooper was fired or whatever you want to call it for his lack of recruiting abilities


was he?

I thought he just left for a better gig at tampa bay?

quote:

i think he is a good coach though


he's an awesome DB coach
Posted by ramchallenge
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/30/13 at 10:08 am to
the lack of pressure up front by the d-line and poor pass coverage skills of lb's has lead to some of those db woes! let's get two other defensive coaches involved in these defensive problems(Haley and whomever is coaching lb's)
Posted by RawTiger
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2006
1986 posts
Posted on 9/30/13 at 10:09 am to
No pressure on the quarterback is the problem. ANY QB can pick apart the secondary with all day to throw!
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
44979 posts
Posted on 9/30/13 at 10:09 am to
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i think he is a good coach though
Based on what? (serious question, not breaking your balls)
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/30/13 at 10:10 am to
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was he?

I thought he just left for a better gig at tampa bay?


i dont know if fired is the correct word, maybe pushed out or mutually parted ways but yes he was known for his super lazy recruiting. nfl made since being that you dont have to recruit there, just coach
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27239 posts
Posted on 9/30/13 at 10:10 am to
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cooper was fired or whatever you want to call it for his lack of recruiting abilities


It was rumored he didn't like the recruiting grind but I don't think he was fired or told to look elsewhere.

Raymond isn't getting it done. Someone on this staff has to answer for that defensive performance on Saturday. Improve or get the boot.
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
4127 posts
Posted on 9/30/13 at 10:10 am to
Didn't Chavis bring in cooper?
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
28117 posts
Posted on 9/30/13 at 10:10 am to
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Based on what?


i was talking about cooper
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
36009 posts
Posted on 9/30/13 at 10:11 am to
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maybe pushed out or mutually parted ways


that's new to me, but ok.

quote:

his super lazy recruiting


I knew about this

quote:

nfl made since being that you dont have to recruit there, just coach


why is he back in college? tampa bay fire him?
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